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meyrick
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 28 May 2008    Post subject: Honda CG125 Side Stand Reply with quote

Hi all,

I know this has been mentioned here and there, but has anyone actually managed to get a side stand for their CG125?

I have a 2006 model and from the looks of it the frame has a hole for the bolt and a hook for the spring. I'm in Bristol and I have tried Fowlers, but they won't touch anything that isn't official UK stock tied to your frame number.

I have heard rumours that 'some dealers' can get them from 'other countries' but I have no specifics to go on. None on eBay that I can see, unless I order a bunch from other small Honda bikes and hope I can bodge one to fit.

Any ideas?

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PostPosted: 17:41 - 28 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

some on ebay from time to time, try honda themselves ie your local dealership, beleive it or not but dealerships do actually want to help.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 28 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno if this answers your question...

https://hondacg125.awardspace.com/accessories.htm#Side%20Stand
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 28 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a sidestand mount... alas no disc brake... yet.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 28 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can set eBay up to let you know by email if an item you have searched for becomes available you know?
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

19van71 wrote:
You can set eBay up to let you know by email if an item you have searched for becomes available you know?


No, I did not know...just set it up, thanks! Very Happy

I have tried every dealership within 25 miles and none of them can help. Today I called Honda customer services in desperation and they said that they have had the same request a number of times and it is not Honda policy to supply this part to the UK market.

I now have a theory that the side stand doesn't meet EU regulations, possibly because it lacks a safety cutout switch, so they have had to take it off to comply with the law until they redesign the wiring for a later model. This is just a wild guess and the kindest explanation I can come up with. The only alternative is that Honda are being unbelievably stingy b******s.

Bah, humbug! Laughing Thanks for the input guys.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No probs!

Hope you find one soon... Wink
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're absolutely correct, my local Honda garage looked into it - there is a mounting hole and everything for a side stand, but they won't fit one for you because there is no provision for an engine cutout switch for it - considering most riders of CG125's are learners, having thousands of newbies riding around with side stands still out and a mass of crashes just waiting to happen.

I'm sure everyone has tried to pull off with their side stand down at some point in their motorbiking history - it could be horrific if the engine didn't actually cut out and you took a left turn...
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oliver_FF wrote:
I'm sure everyone has tried to pull off with their side stand down at some point in their motorbiking history - it could be horrific if the engine didn't actually cut out and you took a left turn...


You know from their design they tend to spring back when they hit the ground and while it makes you sit up, you just carry on.

Maybe look for a new cg125 that has one fitted, find the model No/ part No and order over the phone.

Ah Ebay Thumbs Up

Or perhaps one off a chinese copy of the Cg.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect they'd also fall over really easily on a sidestand. Even old ones don't have sidestands. Ones that pre-date idiot switches.

You can buy universal ones that clamp to tubular frames for about £20.
Here's where I saw them.

Consider attaching it to the swingarm rather than the frame. They do this with some old Brits and MZ 2-strokes.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

try david silvers spares, they can normally get parts in for imported hondas.[/list]
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 01 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oliver_FF wrote:
but they won't fit one for you because there is no provision for an engine cutout switch for it


Prime example of Honda being swallowed by heath and safety sh*te.

all the old CGs had side stands, did anyone complain about the lack of switch? no, because you use your noggin and put it up before you leave, if you don't then its your problem.

Im tempted to take my CG to a Honda dealership, just to show them what a real CG is about: simplicity and reliability, not fancy FI systems and health and safety cr*p.


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I'm sure everyone has tried to pull off with their side stand down at some point in their motorbiking history - it could be horrific if the engine didn't actually cut out and you took a left turn...


Ive pulled off multiple times on my cg, and on my cb250rs with the side stand down, bugger all happens, it just makes a bang, wiggles the back end a bit then puts the stand up.


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PostPosted: 16:22 - 01 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't they put the rubber 'Thingy' on the end of the stand to flick it up in this sort of instance? or am I talking bull? Confused
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 01 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

endless nameless on here has a sidestand for his 1982 CG.

although somehow i dont think its an original part, as his bike is nearly horizontal when its on the stand.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 01 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the rubber foot is to kick it up in theory, in practice you've smashed a hole in the road with the metal before the rubber does its job.

Side stands were factory fitted on the '82, AFAIK its some time in the late 90s-early 00s they took it off, major mistake.

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PostPosted: 15:05 - 06 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been to several Honda dealers about a sidestand for the current model = 2004 onwards Honda CG125.

At first back in 2004 and 2005 non of them or very few new how to obtain it.

By 2006 around half of them had found out how to get hold of it and had supplied it to customers.

I even saw a brand new Honda CG125 in the showroom with a sidestand on it.
The dealer claimed the bike was sold and the customer demanded it.
The sidestand fitted and looked perfect.
The bike was leaning the correct amount so it was the perfect length.

I never bought the sidestand since they all told me it was just over £50.

Honda UK had to say no to customers legally.
But they can tell their dealers unofficially by word of mouth (no paper trail) how to get it.

So my advice is try as many Honda dealers as you can.
You can always use the telephone and see if they will post it.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 07 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's probably bad form for my second ever post on a forum to be an act of deep necromancy, but I can't see anything else concerning this in the search.

So, question: Might a CBF125 stand work, given that it probably inherits much of the CG's frame, and comes ready fitted with one? Or a similar one off eBay (I think there was e.g. the Dylan, CB125 and maybe a couple others I found that were a suitable size when prodding sellers for info).

There might even be a way to jerry-rig the switch, given that the CG does at least already have an in-gear and clutch-released cutout for the starter. I could see running the ignition through a relay slaved through a combination of stand and neutral switch inputs being not too expensive or complicated after all.

If not, where are these garages that have been given the word-of-mouth instructions, and what flavour of masonic handshake is required for them to trust you're not an HSE inspector and admit to knowing it?
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 07 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ring and ask the parts desk, if they can get it they'll let you have one. That or find a wrecked drum brake model at a breakers. Its only a bolt, spring and a bit of bent tube.
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I know it's probably bad form for my second ever post on a forum to be an act of deep necromancy, but I can't see anything else concerning this in the search.

So, question: Might a CBF125 stand work, given that it probably inherits much of the CG's frame, and comes ready fitted with one? Or a similar one off eBay (I think there was e.g. the Dylan, CB125 and maybe a couple others I found that were a suitable size when prodding sellers for info).

There might even be a way to jerry-rig the switch, given that the CG does at least already have an in-gear and clutch-released cutout for the starter. I could see running the ignition through a relay slaved through a combination of stand and neutral switch inputs being not too expensive or complicated after all.

If not, where are these garages that have been given the word-of-mouth instructions, and what flavour of masonic handshake is required for them to trust you're not an HSE inspector and admit to knowing it?

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PostPosted: 23:04 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i brought a side stand of ebay for £20 including postage it bolted straight on my 56 plate cg125 and it works well honda wanted £60 to fit one

check ebay even an old one from the late 80s brazil model would fit
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres one on the ebay strip at the bottom of the page Shocked , bloody clever this internet thingy!
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 09 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

possibly ? maybe? i think? that the foot-pegs for a Honda C-90 are made from one bar that bolts on under the frame and have a side stand attached....i think?
I`m not sure, but have heard that fits? the CG, possibly! maybe.

sorry i cant be more helpful Confused
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth a fling, aye, especially as they don't actually come up labelled that way too often.

I'm still quite considering the added switch idea though (rig up a relay that uses that and the neutral or clutch switch as inputs (a la starter lockout, but different), running via an aftermarket handlebar killswitch), so... DOES anyone know what the peg heights are like on CG vs CBF? I can quite easily get hold of a switched stand for the latter after all.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '91 cg had a side stand and no centre stand - looked original and everything. Have the frames changed much since then?

Also, have you tried searching for "kickstand" rather than sidestand?
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/honda-dylan-and-cg-125-side-stand-/250660367526?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3a5c85aca6
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 24 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, whilst I wait for my dinner to cook Laughing

That link's to the same thing that was popping up on the related ads at the bottom of the page ... well, sort of, as it's now finished and been relisted. From looking at the full size image I'd be a touch wary on how well it might work - it's certainly a different bike (much more faired) and although it's canted over towards the camera a little, the stand mount seems to be MUCH more horizontal than what the cutout on my CG frame is. Mebbe worth looking into the seller's feedback and seeing if they've sold any before with good results.

(I know the Dylan one is supposed to fit, but the feet on the end are generally flat are they not? So it'd be at the wrong angle)

Hrmm. The only way to be sure, I suppose, would be to actually take the plunge, same as with the lamp. Rolling Eyes But I want to check up on the leccy system first, I drew it out best as I could estimate during some work downtime and then put my putative additions on in a different colour... however it's all potentially bollocks so have brought the manual in to consult properly over munchies.

Definitely interested because I've received a confirmation that I can't get a warranty replacement claim on my "new" centrestand ("They say the damage isn't anything to do with a manufacturing defect on their behalf"... er, how is that possible when they haven't looked at it, owing to it still being on the bloody bike?), and though careful handling has stalled the rapid decline seen before (including a discovery that, with an empty tailbag, the back end is light enough to briefly lift up in the air which lets you kick it up or down with zero effective load), I don't trust it to eventually fail again with the frequency of ups & downs it's generally subjected to - meaning an inevitable further hundred quid or more for a second replacement. Plus it's a right ruddy pain anyway.

OK off to tend to the oven...
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