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Used Sports Bike Acceptable Mileage Limit?
5-10 thousand
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10-15 thousand
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Spit-Fire
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Used Sports Bike Acceptable Mileage Limit? Reply with quote

iv been looking at used superports recently, as i hopefully will be in the market for a new one shortly.

i often come across examples that are lower priced due to them having higher then normal mileage.

i was wondering, whats the general ceiling on acceptable miles for a sports 6? (or any sports bike).

most of the ones i see are early 20 thousands.] but rage to mid 30's
as they are (surely) designed to run far beyond this,
would a bike with this kind of use be a bad buy?

i would be grateful for all thoughts and opinions Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early 20's on a bike isn't anything to worry about really.

It may affect resale value quite a bit if you end up adding a fair few miles to it though.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

All depends how old it is. I bought my zx6r with 27k on the clock, it was 8yr old at the time. Thats still less than 3,500miles per year on average. Its been a great buy at a great price and the mileage is in no way a hinderance. If I carry on maintaining it well I see no reason why it wont hit double its current mileage without major expense.
Im currently looking at changing bikes and im looking for something no more than 5yrs old.
Something with up to 15k on the clock will be considered, providing its got full service history.
It makes you wonder all these 'low mileage' late 80's early 90's sportsbikes you see on ebay etc. '20yr old cbr, 8,000 genuine miles'. Yeah right...
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even 30/40k isn't high if it has been looked after. The influx of barely used sportsbikes onto the market is a fairly recent thing tbh, too many garage ornaments that noone has any time/money to ride (mine included).

I certainly wouldn't be overly put off by a bike with 30-40k, so long as it isn't due many consumables, has been looked after and has been priced accordingly.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

forget age, etc.. whats important is how its been looked after.

id be happier with a 50k bike thats got a fsh than a 15k bike with none.

in fact my blade holds true to that. currently on 32k and shes mint Smile
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with the above. it all depends on the age of the bike.

my gsxr750 has 34K miles on the clock but its 19 years old and when u do the maths that works out at just under 1.8K miles a year. thats nothing really. the engine has been stripped and rebuilt since then too.

i didnt vote in the poll for that reason.

between 3K and 5K per year would be an accepted milage. that covers to and from work and the regular sunday blasts.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Agree with those above saying it depends on how it has been treated and what bike it is. Thrash a bike on track days and you will be doing a hell of a lot more wear than a bike that has been used for long motorway journies.

However given the number of low mileage bikes around there seems to be little reason to buy one with high mileage without a decent discount on the price.

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PostPosted: 21:51 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

all high mileage examples iv seen are a fair few hundreds of quid cheaper.
but sure if this was due to a inherit problem with high miles and sports bikes,
or just the fact that it has the big effect on resale value in a competitive market

what about things other then the engine,
would wear and tear not mean they would be due replacement too?

also, do you think the mileage suggest what kind of use its had, or type of owner.

would a 2005 zx6r with 30,000 miles make you suspect of its treatment..... or just think it must of racked up a lot of mundane motorway miles
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just one of those things where you have to take each case on it's merits. High mileage and good maintenance is far better than low mileage and neglect.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Chassis bearings wear. Probably steering head and suspension linkage first (ignoring wheel bearings as they are pretty much consumables). But the rear shock will wear, forks will wear and bushes will need replacement. Exhaust will rot and / or crack. Silencer will get noisier as the packing compresses. Radiator and oil cooler will probably start to have the fins rot.

Electrics can suffer as well.

And the older it is the more abuse the frame has taken, hence the possibility of cracks increases.

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PostPosted: 22:11 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really is hard to say, you could have a bike that the previous owners done a lot of miles on but looked after because he doesn't want it breaking down when he's touring or a bike with lower miles on that's been neglected because the guy only rode a few local miles when the weathers been nice.

Personally I would buy a 20- 30k bike if it rode well and didn't have any major faults on viewing the money saved you can easily get fork/shock rebuilds upgrade bit's you didn't like and still have change left over.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you think the high mileage is likely to have racked up on long commutes though?
wouldn't that kind of journey on a sports 600 be tedious and warrant a chiropractor to stand straight by the end of the week Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not really. Both Bendy and G have GSXR1000s that get used for commuting type journies.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:32 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Goldwing fraternity 70000 is considered just run in so I dont see why a modern hyper sports bike should do any less. Yes they are highly tuned but who ever uses the full power of even a 600 on the road.

As keith said, track bikes are different, but then our old Fazer, 30000 miles, wiped out by a granny so tracked 2 years ago, used and really abused doesnt burn oil, misfire or anything. In fact I loved riding it so much I put it back on the road as a shits and giggles bike.

Go on the owner, you know very quickly if a bikes been looked after
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can go back to the age of the bike and how it's looked after, are you looking at 2 year old bikes or 5-10 year old bikes, I put 20k on a zzr6 (ok not a sport bike) in 18 months commuting and fun riding when it was nicked it was in a lot better condition than when I bought it, running well and I was confident that it would have lasted another 20k without any major work.

The riding and maintenance are a lot more important than the mileage.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i understand with a thou, as it has more power through out the rev range then the usual tool for the job (naked 6)
but i never really saw a supersport as ideal for the role,
so wondered how people did so many miles
in so little time, as it seems to be a unusual trend

are modern bikes as robust as the golden oldies?

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thanks for the advice lads, its help bring clarity and a different way of looking at the picture Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought my r1 with 57000 on the clock she now has 60000 and apart from a rad cap fault she's been great.
Payed 1700 for her and it was worth every

With regular oil changes and servicing theres no reason a bike shouldn't pass the 100000 mark.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my FZR with 80,000km on the clock - so 50k miles, and it was lovely, and utterly reliable.

My current bike has only 22k on the clock and is not lovely. In fact it's a bit fooked.
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the fsh, would you be happy buying a bike where someone hasn't taken the bike to a garage for work. However they have receipts for the comsumables they have bought for the bike.

For example my log book for my CBR600RR only has one stamp for the first service. The rest of the work has been carried out by myself and I have most of the receipts for the bits I've bought but I've not written in the log book what I've done.

Then again my 2006 bike has only done 17,000 miles.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonB wrote:
Regarding the fsh, would you be happy buying a bike where someone hasn't taken the bike to a garage for work. However they have receipts for the comsumables they have bought for the bike.


as long as the reciepts are there that counts as service history to me.

i do all my own servicing on my 600s but as the blades under 10 years im getting that dealer done just for the sake of keeping the perfect stamp history (last owner had it since new, dealer serviced every year)

a bike over 10yrs old i dont think id bother that much, but this is a personal thing. wouldnt look down on anyone with a sub 10yr bike that has done their own servicing as long as they've got the papers to back it up
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mileage for me isn't an issue at all, as with a lot of the comments above, it's all about how they've been looked after for said mileage.

My 15 year old ZXR has 32k miles on it. But of all the parts now on it, it's only the gearbox, frame and fairing that has covered that mileage. The majority of the engine has been replaced as I've tuned it, the front and rear end have both been replace with items off a different (newer) bike.

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PostPosted: 09:59 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonB wrote:
Regarding the fsh, would you be happy buying a bike where someone hasn't taken the bike to a garage for work. However they have receipts for the comsumables they have bought for the bike.


like the mileage id be cautious,
but also like the mileage, age would play apart in my opinion.

i forget usually bikers are not like the average car owners, and a lot of them, are mechanically capable of at minimal a minor service.

in theory the above all makes sense,
though in person when viewing a bike, its a lot harder to tell, if its been looked after, self service etc, or if its just a dressed up nail

plugger147 wrote:
are you looking at 2 year old bikes or 5-10 year old bikes,


more 5-10 year old.
less then 5 years is in the £4000+ bracket.
which is similar age thousand money,
and even cheap exotica
(999, RSVR, F4 750)
so the 2005/4 jap four to 99/02 original r6's

Josh91 wrote:

It may affect resale value quite a bit if you end up adding a fair few miles to it though.


was thinking maybe id turn it in to a track bike depending on the bike, to save my self the deprecation hit.

would a high mileage engine, survive track work?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spit-Fire wrote:
would a high mileage engine, survive track work?


Quite likely,but also likely to be down to how it has been treated in the past. Thrashing from cold will rapidly increase wear, thrashed once warm and wear shouldn't be an issue.

But some engines have weak points. 2nd gear on lots of Yamahas including early R6 models for example

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PostPosted: 10:08 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My zx6r has racked up 54k now and its a '00 model. (Bought with 28k on it)

Utterly dependable. All ive replaced are the consumables and a coil pack.

My x7 ( granted not a sports bike ), has 30k on it and thats a 30year old 2stroker. But most of the bearings in the chassis have been replaced and pretyy much all of the engine internals have been renewed.

The XJ600 ('90) i also have thats used as a commuter hack by my old man has some 50k + on it. Apart from needing some clutch plates now, its never caused a problem.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spit-Fire wrote:

would a high mileage engine, survive track work?

with regular oil and filter changes i dont see why not.

quite often with trackbikes although the engine is being worked hard they're also often looked after well too. more regular servicing than road bikes, suspension sorted, brakes, new seals, bearings etc..
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