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drzsta
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Do i need insurance before buying new bike? Reply with quote

Hi,

im just about to buy a new 2010 ZX6R,
do i need insurance to buy it?

we are going to take it back via trailer becuase im not going to insure it until september.

is it something to do with road tax? surely i can tax it on my own when im ready to use it on the road?

many thanks!
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only reason i ask is becuase when i bought a bike 2 years ago he said he needed to have a copy of my insurance cert. possibly so he could tax it.

but in this case its something i could do myself.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dealership wont let you take the bike without insurence. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

needsy wrote:
The dealership wont let you take the bike without insurence. Thumbs Up


Whichever dealership told you that is crap.

You will need a copy of your insurance to tax it, but I'm guessing you don't want it taxed now so you don't need insurance.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the Dealership have to ensure the bike is taxed when it leaves them? Just that I'm thinking that all vehicles have to either be taxed or SORN'd these days.

If so could you not arrange to have a SORN issued as it will be off the road until you are ready to ride, insure and tax it? You or they can do this online, so it's not like it's going to take ages and require any other documentation.

Just a thought Confused
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, well,

Is your bike "Pre-reg"?
Or is it straight out of the crate, brand spanking new?

If it's "pre-reg", meaning dealer is first owner, then they should be able to tax it for you, using their own trade dealer insurance.

If it's straight out of the crate, then it's not registered with DVLA therefore, no log book? so can't be taxed?

But i thinks it's advisable to take out comprehensive insurance and gap insurance in case your bike get stolen during the time, since it's such a juicy tasty bike.
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drzsta
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, sorry - no fully comp for me - im only 19 so its tpft for £1113
had a drz previous.

still got insurance on my current ride so can't justify insurance on the 6 until it runs out in september.


Still, im fuckin stoked about getting it, just gotta remember to take it steady Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:
haha, sorry - no fully comp for me - im only 19 so its tpft for £1113
had a drz previous.

still got insurance on my current ride so can't justify insurance on the 6 until it runs out in september.


Still, im fuckin stoked about getting it, just gotta remember to take it steady Laughing


No offense but if you are getting such a machine and only going TPFT then you are being silly.

If you have the money to repair, replace the bike in the event of an accident then you have the cash to go fully comp on insurance.

Unless you are buying it outright, you could well find yourself with no bike and a fuck load of debt in the event you stack it.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know if its releavant in this case but if the bike is under a hirepurchase agreement it would need fully comp insurance regardless if it was being used or not.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't need insurance to purchase the bike, but need it to ride it about so pretty much if by the odd chance Mr Police Officer was sat down the guys road and you took it for a quick 20meters and back ride then you would be in trouble sir Laughing but for popping it on a trailer and driving home in your road legal car then it's fine Wink
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drzsta
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

radical wrote:
I dont know if its releavant in this case but if the bike is under a hirepurchase agreement it would need fully comp insurance regardless if it was being used or not.



it's not on hire purchase,
i will look into fully comp, the reason is basically i've started driving at the same time so its going to cost around 2 grand full comp for the car aswell Confused


bad timing, but why fully comp when GAP + tpft will protect it when its in the GARAGE, i know out on the road is a different story.
buying now because of the 20% vat increase in jan/ among other things.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:

i know out on the road is a different story.


Exactly my point, at 19 (same as me) I doubt you have a huge experience of riding, I know I don't. Of course you could be a super duper racer for all I know.....

Thing is how often do you hear about the whole "I hit diesel/gravel/random and fell off" story on here. Some totally unforeseen (even outside of your control) events could cause the bike to become a write off and suddenly the thousands you paid for a brand new bike are down the drain.

Personally I wouldn't ever buy brand new but that's a whole new topic altogether.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
drzsta wrote:

i know out on the road is a different story.


Exactly my point, at 19 (same as me) I doubt you have a huge experience of riding, I know I don't. Of course you could be a super duper racer for all I know.....

Thing is how often do you hear about the whole "I hit diesel/gravel/random and fell off" story on here. Some totally unforeseen (even outside of your control) events could cause the bike to become a write off and suddenly the thousands you paid for a brand new bike are down the drain.

Personally I wouldn't ever buy brand new but that's a whole new topic altogether.


your right mate, ill look into it, at just over 8 grand i know its a fuckin huge amount for a bike but tbh - i've been saving for ages to buy a six and kwak is everything i need for years to come.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
needsy wrote:
The dealership wont let you take the bike without insurence. Thumbs Up


Whichever dealership told you that is crap.

You will need a copy of your insurance to tax it, but I'm guessing you don't want it taxed now so you don't need insurance.


Not true.

The dealer thats getting my GSXR in next week Very Happy is telling me the same? However, just bought a brand new car today and never needed insurance (they chucked in a 7 day cover).

As for insurance quotes, had a few silly ones and I'm 32. Like fuck I'm paying a £1250 excess!
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could buy two used thous for the same price,
that do every thing the current bikes do Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spit-Fire wrote:
you could buy two used thous for the same price,
that do every thing the current bikes do Thumbs Up


True, but have been mulling things over for more than a while and without going into some very boring ramblings 0% finance eases the pain of not shedding out money.

I've had far too many problems with 2nd hand bikes in the past. An 08 600 was for sale at £20 a less a month should I wanted to get a loan for it.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i feel your pain but at the same i know just as many finance horror storys
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anything such as hire purchase these days. Black Horse who must do 99% of bike finance is a personal loan.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Do i need insurance before buying new bike? Reply with quote

drzsta wrote:
im just about to buy a new 2010 ZX6R,


we are going to take it back via trailer becuase im not going to insure it until september.


Simply tell the dealer you want delivery in Sept.... They will be happy they have a sale. You will be happy because you wont have to pay full amount till then, only the deposit. There is no risk to you of the bike being nicked from you without insurance.... Just think what would happen if you crashed with the bike on the trailer...... Embarassed

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PostPosted: 12:30 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why buy it now and take it home, having to pay for TPFT insurance when you're not going to ride it for a month? If you take it in September, it will be worth more when you come to sell it (as they can register it as a 60 plate).
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