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I've tried numbers on there but will give emailing them a go. |
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Ground Floor
3 Cambridge Terrace
Oxford
OX1 1RW
Apparently is the Oxford DVLA sub-office. I always go in to the local Edinburgh branch, assuming its not been closed down of course. You have to take a ticket and wait, but you do that on the phone anyway.
When you have them in the steely icey glare of a slightly manic looking stare, they tend to be more forth-coming with information.
https://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/contactus/localoffices/findnear/england/oxford_local_office.aspx
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+1 to Pa_broon
But be aware the advice they give is not always correct....
I had to change to photo licence due to house move. So took all the stuff to our local ( 30 mins away) one. Asked if I need any further id to send off, as I had proof of old and new address as well as the old licence, and was told nope that will be fine...
Got a letter back saying not enough. So sent of a couple of bills etc as I did not have birth cert to hand....
Got anohter letter back saying need birth cert....
FFS cost me £10 to get a new one.... Such a farce just to renew a licence.
WTF you simply cannot get one straight away from the local offices when applying in person is a joke. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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From a previous post:
| multijoy wrote: | I don't know if this is old news but I was doing some digging for something slightly related and came across this.
It's the case of an individual with a drink drive conviction. The endorsement remains for 11 years, but the conviction itself has become spent. The chap lost his case but the judge made some comments and the Financial Ombudsman went on to say that
| Quote: | [..]By way of analogy, there seems no reason why a rehabilitated drink-driver, if he had evidence, would not have an equally strong case if he was refused insurance or was given less favourable terms and conditions than other policyholders, simply because of his spent conviction. If firms insist on asking questions about spent convictions, then they must effectively ignore the answers they receive. Otherwise, we are likely to consider they have breached their statutory duty.
Similarly, if a firm cancels the policy of a customer who has a spent conviction (but whose licence is still endorsed), simply because the customer did not disclose the endorsement, then we will uphold the customer’s complaint.
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The ombudsman's view (not the FSA) appears to be that an endorsement, if linked to a spent conviction, need not be declared.
So, for example, I have a drink-drive conviction and get a 6 month prison sentence. This conviction, under the terms of the rehabilitation of offenders act, becomes spent after 7 years. However, the endorsement remains for 11.
The ombudsman is saying that after that 7 year period, neither the conviction nor the endorsement need be declared and have stated that they will uphold a complaint if an insurance company treated person A differently to person B solely on the basis of this now spent conviction, assuming all other things are equal, and that if they subsequently attempted to wriggle out of the contract because of an undeclared but spent endorsement, they would also find themselves on the wrong end of a sanction.
The difficulty is that an endorsement isn't a 'disability, prohibition or other penalty' within the meaning of the Act, and so isn't subject to the ROA in of itself, which does confuse matters, especially as it takes on that role and I think it's right that the ombudsman has taken the view that they have, given the way endorsements are viewed.
Chris750, however, asked whether he has to declare previous convictions despite having a now-clean license.
The answer there is no, provided those convictions have become spent, except when the post is exempted. The same applies for an application for insurance- if the convictions are spent, there is no requirement to declare them and, as mentioned, the ombudsman has decided that this applies to those endorsements if they remain.
I am so not a lawyer, you may want to check this before not declaring something to your insurance company!
As an aside, I think it would be interesting to see if someone could challenge a decision not to employ, if the decision was made solely on the basis of an endorsement for a now-spent conviction.
(Of course you're a daft sod if you actually give a reason for not employing someone!) ____________________ '11 CBF1000A, '99 C90, '98 CB500
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 209 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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