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dextersaurus
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Blocked mobile... Reply with quote

So my uhh... sister got this phone, from a 'friend' of hers...

And when she charged it and stuck a SIM in it, it registered on the network, but she couldn't make/recieve calls or texts...

So it seems the phone has been blocked.

Any way round this?

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Dunc
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, give it back to the owner.

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PostPosted: 17:28 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The owner can call the network that blocked it and get it unblocked.
Or your sister should just try buying her phones from a shop rather than some skinhead down the pub.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah tell your sister next time she robs somebody choose a victim that doesn't have enough intelligence to ring the phone company. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll pass on the message Laughing

She bought a new phone on sunday anyway, i just wanted this phone coz it's a pretty decent one, but if it's useless then i'll chuck it.

Ahwell.

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PostPosted: 17:37 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send it to Envirophone.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Dunkable wrote:
i'll pass on the message Laughing

She bought a new phone on sunday anyway, i just wanted this phone coz it's a pretty decent one, but if it's useless then i'll chuck it.

Ahwell.

Cheers

Dunc


What make and model of phone is it?

As I have a half eaten mars bar that I might swap you for the phone.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMEI changing is possible, depeds on the phone.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
Send it to Envirophone.


I wouldn't Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soul_Trader wrote:
IMEI changing is possible, depeds on the phone.


It's also illegal. And probably pretty stupid, considering mobile phones pretty much act as a homing beacon if they want to find you. Rolling Eyes

You're probably best to hand it in to the police tbh, as at least that way the owner's more likely to receive their phone back than it just get chucked and wasted entirely. Careful though, you don't want to get arrested for doing a good deed as i'd half expect that to happen in this day/age.

And tell your sister that (if my suspicions are correct as to the source of this phone) she probably just helped fund the underground robbing "industry", keeping the ball rolling for those scumbags that may one target target her/you/me. Eurgh.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and with a random IMEI and an unregistered SIM do they REALLY know who the hell you are and why they want to find you?

No, you, and your phone, are just numbers, with no meaning whatsoever.

If it doesn't have GPS, they they can only triangulate your position using transmitter masts, which is very inaccurate.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 04 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
Soul_Trader wrote:
IMEI changing is possible, depeds on the phone.


It's also illegal. And probably pretty stupid, considering mobile phones pretty much act as a homing beacon if they want to find you. Rolling Eyes



The cabling and software is also expensive making it pretty pointless if you are doing 1 phone, if you make it a regular earner on the side it might warrant it, but really, who can be arsed? It's far too time consuming learning all that shite to bother with.

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You're probably best to hand it in to the police tbh, as at least that way the owner's more likely to receive their phone back than it just get chucked and wasted entirely. Careful though, you don't want to get arrested for doing a good deed as i'd half expect that to happen in this day/age.


Yep, you guessed right: https://www.crosbyherald.co.uk/news/crosby-news/2009/04/02/teenager-arrested-by-southport-police-for-handing-in-mobile-phone-68459-23291295/

Sure, they dropped the case, but they still have his photo, fingerprints and DNA on file permanently, just in case he rapes or murders anyone in the future...... Rolling Eyes

Anyways, @OP, you can sell it abroad, the IMEI thingy is not standardised across Europe (last time I checked anyway) so it will work overseas.

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PostPosted: 00:14 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the OP's family never complain if they are burgled or robbed - buying hooky goods creates the market for junkie twats to break into your house or for little wanksters to rob you at knife-point.

If you think it's acceptable for a teenager to be mugged because your sis is too cheap to pay for her own phone then you're a tit.

And don't give me that shit about "if she didn't buy it someone else would" - if no-one bought stolen goods, there wouldn't be a market for it.

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I imagine there's a lot more to the case than the 'model student' is saying.

Most nicks get several phones/wallets/bags/purses handed in every day - no-one I know of has ever been arrested for it.
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dextersaurus
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i was her i wouldn't have bought it but nout i can do about it now.

Just wondering, it's laying in her house gathering dust.

It's not really my problem - it's hers. her pal said she bought the phone off ebay and then sold it to my sister for £20...

Live and learn i suppose, she went and bought a new phone anyways.

And with the comment about the market for junkies and stuff, the area where i live, if it isn't bolted down they'll nick it, my first bike was passed around apparently then sold, most probably for drug money...
I agree with mister james though, she shouldn't have done it but she's 16 so whatdya expect.

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PostPosted: 01:06 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

16 eh? If she's cute she's forgiven! Wink

Seriously though, if 'decent' people didn't buy stolen goods (if you're offered something in the pub or street for a fraction of its price you KNOW it's stolen) there wouldn't be any demand, and burglaries/robberies would dry up.
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
16 eh? If she's cute she's forgiven! Wink

Seriously though, if 'decent' people didn't buy stolen goods (if you're offered something in the pub or street for a fraction of its price you KNOW it's stolen) there wouldn't be any demand, and burglaries/robberies would dry up.


I got told that buying stolen goods is more punishable than stealing yourself for this reason, and that people flogging the occasional nicked phone as stuff would claim they nicked it themselves to get a lesser problem. Any truth to this?

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PostPosted: 01:34 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, not really.

It's probably easier to prove a HSG (handling) charge than a theft with no witnesses, but they're both 'either way' offences that could result in similar sentences.
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PostPosted: 06:11 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can change the IMEI, if you enjoy prison food
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:


I imagine there's a lot more to the case than the 'model student' is saying.

Most nicks get several phones/wallets/bags/purses handed in every day - no-one I know of has ever been arrested for it.


Yeah maybe, but you can't be too careful these days, you know, I recall that guy who handed in a shotgun to his local nick that he'd found dumped at the bottom of his garden who was arrested and subsequently given a 1 years suspended sentence of 12 months imprisonment, which said to me that should I ever find myself in the same situation, the safest thing to do would be to ring up some of the more unsavoury people I know and flog to them, since it being out there as a potential murder weapon poses less chance of me getting nicked and put in prison, and I make a bit of cash at the same time - great success! Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 09:35 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:


Yeah maybe, but you can't be too careful these days, you know, I recall that guy who handed in a shotgun to his local nick that he'd found dumped at the bottom of his garden who was arrested and subsequently given a 1 years suspended sentence of 12 months imprisonment, which said to me that should I ever find myself in the same situation, the safest thing to do would be to ring up some of the more unsavoury people I know and flog to them, since it being out there as a potential murder weapon poses less chance of me getting nicked and put in prison, and I make a bit of cash at the same time - great success! Thumbs Up



There was more to that case than meets the eye, but there was absolutley no reason he couldn't have simply asked the police to come and pick it up. You wouldn't even have to pay for the phonecall! Here's a good analysis of that case.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:


There was more to that case than meets the eye, but there was absolutley no reason he couldn't have simply asked the police to come and pick it up. You wouldn't even have to pay for the phonecall! Here's a good analysis of that case.


Yeah but given the choice of calling a "friend" to trade with, or having an armed response squad rappel through my windows, most likely hold me at gunpoint and drag me off down the station for the obligatory 24 hours in a cell whilst they ascertain where the gun came from and if my story is water-tight, and THEN decide whether to prosecute me or not..well, I know which one is going to inconvienience me more.....

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PostPosted: 11:12 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah but given the choice of calling a "friend" to trade with, or having an armed response squad rappel through my windows, most likely hold me at gunpoint and drag me off down the station for the obligatory 24 hours in a cell whilst they ascertain where the gun came from and if my story is water-tight, and THEN decide whether to prosecute me or not..well, I know which one is going to inconvienience me more.....


If you think "Hi, I think I've found a gun at the bottom of my garden. Could you send someone round?" is likely to result in that response, then you either live in Cumbria or you've been watching too many films!

Unless, of course, you've got a history of firearms offences, in which case you'd probably be right to be nervous. But then you'd have flung into your neighbour's garden or thought " 'ere, that's just what I need", in which case you're not calling the police.

Or, of course, you could flog it to a bloke in a pub. Because that's not going to lead to awkward questions down the line at all, is it.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of people being raided by armed response because their neighbours reported their airsoft guns Laughing

Usually at 3am in the morning, fully loaded weapons etc, cant be too careful Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Dunkable wrote:
she shouldn't have done it but she's 16 so whatdya expect.

I assume you would be just as forgiving if it was someone aged 16 or under that nicked your bike?

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=184353
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:

There was more to that case than meets the eye, but there was absolutley no reason he couldn't have simply asked the police to come and pick it up. You wouldn't even have to pay for the phonecall! Here's a good analysis of that case.


That whole case showed a lack of common sense on the CPS part, your man in the blog says so (then smartly contradicts himself as well as assuming no one can exercise a spot of common sense on whether to apply a given law under th circumstances.) He's not much of a liberal either.

And dunc, I'm sick of your sister bullying me, thats the third phone she's taken off me, tell her if she does it again I'm telling my mum.

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