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Villers
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: 'emergency bikers' emergency pests! Reply with quote

Just watching thst ch5 thing and Im actually outraged at the police stopping law abiding bikers going about their business to lecture on what gear to wear.

Anyone of us sat here that would take it in the interest it is intended or would a polite 'suckusoff' be in order?
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be having a right pop, unless there was something illegal on the bike, which there always was.

My noddy-car is fully legit though, so if they stop me in that to tell me my music is too loud and 'distracting' or something they'll get an earful. Stasi pricks.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just saw that myself, the general consensus between me and my dad was mind your own business and go fight some crime Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to open a beer to stop myself popping a temple vein! Me and the bike are legit so Id be tempted to go off on a restrained but belittling rant about what a fantastic job he was doing. Obviously it would be laced heavily with sarcasm. 'are you giving me a ticket?' 'have I done anything wrong?' 'guess Ill be on my way so you can waste someone elses time who doesnt have the backbone to laugh at the arse puppet you really are!'
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd probably just sit there and hope they don't notice any of the offences they my bike usually has. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isnt it illegal to disobey direction from a traffic officer? That means he is not just politely requesting a chat it is legally forcing you to pull over so he can give you some bollocks lecture!
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

whilst he was talking I would slowly remove my bike jacket and gloves and then strip down to pants boots and helmet, strap them across the seat then once he'd finished wave and ride off Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yuri2085 wrote:
Isnt it illegal to disobey direction from a traffic officer? That means he is not just politely requesting a chat it is legally forcing you to pull over so he can give you some bollocks lecture!


Is there a time limit stated? Can I stop for a split second and then proceed with my journey. I followed his order Wink
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 11 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is illegal, but only so far as traffic orders go. So them blocking off a street is something you must conform to. Them stopping you to give you a lecture probably isn't. At most they could make you stay till they're done, they can't make you go out and buy stuff or do stuff thats not a legal requirement.
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PostPosted: 06:19 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never worn 'bike gear' but have never been lectured (or even had the fact mentioned in passing) by the cops. I demand my rights - I want to patronised by a load of fat arseholes with very little idea how to ride a bike and about a tenth of the road experience I've got too.
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PostPosted: 06:35 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what they'd do if you just repeated everything back to them as they were talking. In the style of John Merrick. Or maybe Yoda.
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PostPosted: 06:52 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give them a lecture on risk compensation Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 07:21 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw that myself last night. I thought that the guy on the quad bike was a pillock for riding without any protection, but he was legally compliant so plod had no right to pull him over. Stinks of more nanny state, health and safety police interference.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was wearing a helmet at least didnt even need that legally speaking. i cant believe how much that has wound you up?! whats wrong with a copper taking 2 mins out your day to advise you on gear? surely this might just get a seventeedn yr old to wear his jacket gloves etc so if he does come off it will save him alot of pain. fair enough the older boys will do what they do but the impressionable yoof of today might just benefit. that bloke on the quad looked a right tit.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ollieholt wrote:
whats wrong with a copper taking 2 mins out your day to advise you on gear?


Because it's MY two minutes, not his.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartadair wrote:
I thought that the guy on the quad bike was a pillock for riding without any protection, but he was legally compliant


actually he was over compliant. dont even need a helmet on a quad bike.

personally i dont see the problem with this. ok so if it was me id whinge a bit for wasting my time but he's only looking out for their well being. he didnt ticket them, just 30seconds of their time to point out they could be safer. dont see any problem with that.

and remember, they're the guys that turn up when said guy has come off and smeared his flesh 200m down the tarmac. its not a pretty sight.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their view on such matters of 'safety' is biased by their job.

They go to work and live in bike gear, it's the norm and what they are expected to do, therefore everyone else should do the same.

For the kid on the RS125 he stopped who worked at ASDA, this doesn't sound too fun:

Wake up,
Full gear on,
Drive to ASDA,
Full gear off,
Work gear on,
Work,
Work gear off,
Full gear on,
Drive home,
Full gear off.

As someone already said on here, it's risk vs. convenience.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could have sworn with both trikes and quads that a helmet was required if no lap belt was fitted.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
I could have sworn with both trikes and quads that a helmet was required if no lap belt was fitted.


Not for either. The fitting of a lap belt makes no difference.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Tarmacsurfer wrote:
I could have sworn with both trikes and quads that a helmet was required if no lap belt was fitted.


Not for either. The fitting of a lap belt makes no difference.


^^This^^
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

On topic - I've never been stopped by Traffic, and they'd have a field day lecturing me because I quite often don't wear full kit - throwing a bike jacket over jeans or my uniform is common when the weather is decent. I'd probably find it pretty patronising too - but like Hetzer, I'd try and remember if my bike were 100% legal before mugging them off!

I stopped a 125 running on L plates this week for a patronising lecture, purely because he was screaming about at 40 (in a 30) in the pouring rain with massive puddles of standing water, wobbling into blind corners and generally being a moment away from utter disaster.

He was a nice kid with a brand new (totally legal and insured) bike blatantly bought for him by mummy and daddy, and took the lecture on the chin.

If nothing else, it'll serve him well when he gets a proper bike, as he'll hopefully remember not to give it the beans in front of a marked police pursuit car - preserving his license!
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What episodes of Emergency Bikers have the bike cops on? I've only watched the first ep & it seemed mostly about the emergency service.

Not to keen on seeing someone bleeding to death, much prefer the Police stuff.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
What episodes of Emergency Bikers have the bike cops on? I've only watched the first ep & it seemed mostly about the emergency service.

Not to keen on seeing someone bleeding to death, much prefer the Police stuff.



They're mixed in so they have both Paramedic and Police stuff in each episode.

The majority of it does seem to be Paramedic stuff though.
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ollieholt wrote:
he was wearing a helmet at least didnt even need that legally speaking. i cant believe how much that has wound you up?! whats wrong with a copper taking 2 mins out your day to advise you on gear? surely this might just get a seventeedn yr old to wear his jacket gloves etc so if he does come off it will save him alot of pain. fair enough the older boys will do what they do but the impressionable yoof of today might just benefit. that bloke on the quad looked a right tit.


If you're not intellegent enough to wear proper gear depending on the power of your bike you don't deserve to be free from the pain.

You take the risk, live with whatever damage you come to.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 12 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy who ended up with a bike in his pond was pretty pissed though wasn't he Laughing
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