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Neorion
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Looking for a new CPU what do we think? (socket 775) Reply with quote

Lo all,

I work in IT support but have been out of the loop for a bit.

I am currently running an MSI 780i mobo with an Intel E6750 at stock.

I could overclock but I will need to change my memory as my 800 does not like anything over 3ghz so might as well look at a quad with a higher speed and I can look at changing ram later.

So whats the best bang for buck with Intel these days?

Not looking to change the mobo or anything as I may end up selling the unit to fund an imac within the year.

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a second hand q6600 and 4gb of Geil ram if you are interested, less clock speed but it is a quad core.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I have a second hand q6600 and 4gb of Geil ram if you are interested, less clock speed but it is a quad core.


I could be mate, whats the stepping of the 6600 and speed of ram?
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best bang per buck would be a Q9650, but I wouldn't spend my own cash on it.

You could probably get a new board and an I5 for the same money.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I wouldn't be looking to spend that, that's why I am just looking at a "minor" upgrade.

I can run starcraft II at full everything turned on and the only bit that gets my tits is the loading but I am not willing to fork out for an SSD yet even though I have seen one for £80 on ebuyer for a 64gb
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's G0 stepping (the best I believe) not sure on the speed of the ram will look tonight.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either Quad Core, or go for the E7400, which i have in my Rig.

Currently sitting at a stable speed of 4.2Ghz Wink

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PostPosted: 15:57 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want something good but cheap and you are going to buy something made by Apple?
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
It's G0 stepping (the best I believe) not sure on the speed of the ram will look tonight.


I guess the important question is how much are you looking for them?
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neorion wrote:
chris-red wrote:
It's G0 stepping (the best I believe) not sure on the speed of the ram will look tonight.


I guess the important question is how much are you looking for them?


Knock a third off whatever they are going for on ebay £60 for the processor

The RAM looks exactly like this
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-1-GB-GEIL-DDR2-RAM-/230506257202?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN#ht_500wt_1115

So am willing to bet it is 800mhz, say another £30 for the lot So £90 in total. I have original packaging for the CPU not sure about the ram.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris ill take the ram if OP doesnt want it . dad rig is in uber need of some new ram

as for a q6600 a Very nice cpu but you might find it slower than a e6750 for general use but then you should be able to clock it to 3.2 Very easily and then there rather nippy ( i had one but now in my dads rig) for a dual core a e8600 is nice or a e8500 got a e8600 ES sat at 4.5ghz.


as for a e7400 not hank you the lack of cache makes it a drag no matter how far you clock it if you want daft clocks and cheap i say e5200 had one run at 4.8 on water with my asus p5ews64evo mobo

a safe bet is a e8400 or even a 6850
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just put my Q6600 back in and am running it at 3.6ghz again (G0 stepping), maxes at 71-degrees under Prime95 (air-cooling). 1066 RAM running at 800 (400FSB, 1:1 ratio). It prefers a 64bit OS though (it runs faster in this than it did in 32-bit XP). 7.4 W7 score. £60 for one is a steal (as long as your MOBO is up for it).

E8400 is also a stonking chip, had mine at 4ghz and there was plenty more to be had, but there's not one being offered for £60.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

780i mobo's where never that good in all honesty most nvidia based chipsets since NF4 have been pants. but im sure it would clock to 3.2 eassily. i had my Go @ 4ghz with a tuniq tower 120 amazing chips for the money and your 6750 should pull £40 ish so a cheap upgrade
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my E6750 @ 3.8 Ghz for a while, but it was running way too hot for my liking. Ended up having it @ 3.2-3.6 depending on the ambient temperature. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:


Knock a third off whatever they are going for on ebay £60 for the processor



Hi Chris,

Sounds good to me, if your happy enough to wait until Friday I can paypal gift the money over to you or bank transfer? (if I can find my card reader).

I wont need the ram as I have corsair XMS2 2x2gb 800, I think part of the reason my overclock was not stable was lack of extra voltage into the 6750.

You use avforums Chris?

@Hetzer I am using 7 x64 so hopefully I see the same return in performance. I thik a 3.2ghz+ will keep me happy for a while.


I probably dont even need too upgrade but you know how it is when you dont open your Pc up in a few months Wink

Cheers for the replies folks very helpful Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
I had my E6750 @ 3.8 Ghz for a while, but it was running way too hot for my liking. Ended up having it @ 3.2-3.6 depending on the ambient temperature. Laughing


ran my 6750 @ 4.1 for over a year but on water with a pa120.2 and push pull keeping it under 50 degrees
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 18 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scratch what I said about mine running at 71-degrees under load. It went to 77-degrees on the last test and bells started ringing. After some research it turned out the program I was using to monitor the temps (Coretemp) had the wrong TjMax value inputted (and couldn't be changed). After getting Realtemp (which is what I usually use, I was using Coretemp only so I could run a desktop gadget) and inputting the correct TjMax value my temps are actually 10-degrees lower. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 18 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that q6600, underwater at idle it was 17deg it never went above 23 under load Laughing the temp inside the case was 21 deg.

I had it OC'd at 3 ghz for a while, still it didn't get much above 40 under load. Water cooling for the win, my new i7 is a hot fecker though, that was running at 40 degrees stock under water.

It's amazing the difference decent thermal paste makes, my 8800gts was running at about 80-90 deg under load, I took it apart and replaced all the shitty thermal paste 'sticker things' they use with Artic silver now it runs at 53 under load.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 19 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I had that q6600, underwater at idle it was 17deg it never went above 23 under load Laughing the temp inside the case was 21 deg.

I had it OC'd at 3 ghz for a while, still it didn't get much above 40 under load. Water cooling for the win, my new i7 is a hot fecker though, that was running at 40 degrees stock under water.

It's amazing the difference decent thermal paste makes, my 8800gts was running at about 80-90 deg under load, I took it apart and replaced all the shitty thermal paste 'sticker things' they use with Artic silver now it runs at 53 under load.


Arctic Silver FTW, I've been using it for years. Can't do much about the shite they use on chipset heatsinks though. I had an MSI NForce board and the stuff on the MOSFETs might as well have been a duvet. Then they wonder why they're shite boards for overclocking.

I've had to give up on 3.6ghz, for some reason it won't run stable in Prime95 (used to be fine). I've lowered the multiplyer to x8 400FSB and it's superb now at 3.2ghz. 25-degrees at idle (20 if just out of sleep mode) and just on 60 in Prime95.
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