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PostPosted: 18:24 - 19 Aug 2010    Post subject: As fucking if! Reply with quote

I want to work for a DJ! (obviously a big one like him) Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 19 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad birthday present. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 19 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the best bit is how causal he is!,
if some body got me a duke 848 as a birthday gift.... lets say the rest of the video would have been pornographic Embarassed .

the girl, who i assume is the Mrs,
doest look to chuffed as well.... i suspect her socks and aftershave prezzie this year have been out classed a tad Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

AT the other end of the scale..... my missus bought for me on my 50th birthday, the big 5-0, wait for it!














A PAIR OF SOCKS Shocked Evil or Very Mad , and she did`nt even wrap them, and they were a week late Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A PAIR OF SOCKS , and she did`nt even wrap them, and they were a week late
Jizz in them and tell her to wash them.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A PAIR OF SOCKS , and she did`nt even wrap them, and they were a week late
Jizz in them and tell her to wash them.



I got the feeling she knew I was a tiny bit miffed (i would`nt let her have sex for a week Smile ) by the way I said thanks!
I know you dont do things to get things back in return, but it was a little different when she turned 50.
I reserved a VIP area in a night-club for her and her mates and laid on the champange.

Well i`ll just have to buy my own presents Smile oooo! is that little rsx100 for me Smile
I`m just to kind to me Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For her 40th I bought her diamonds and gave her a big party.
For my 40th she fucked off.
I got the best present ever. Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

merely a toy for them minted c*nts.

Another reason to work for a DJ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qI4phAjHE

lil Bit un kosher for work, and try bear with the dancing clown for the first 50secs, its worth it Wink
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dead Mouse is global DJ and award winning producer, he charges somewhere in the region of £10,000 for a set and he'd doing about 5 a week.

He is rather cool though being a graphic designer and a complete nerd (notice the pacman tattoos and shit).

Seen him play loads of times but he's one of the least entertaining DJs around, he uses software to auto beat match/synch, he has no DJ skills at all but fair play to him, he makes good music and gets paid a fortune for it.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recoil Jay wrote:
Dead Mouse is global DJ and award winning producer, he charges somewhere in the region of £10,000 for a set and he'd doing about 5 a week.

He is rather cool though being a graphic designer and a complete nerd (notice the pacman tattoos and shit).

Seen him play loads of times but he's one of the least entertaining DJs around, he uses software to auto beat match/synch, he has no DJ skills at all but fair play to him, he makes good music and gets paid a fortune for it.


"DJ" and "skills", the very definition of "mutually exclusive terms".

Surgery is something very few can do, thus a skill. DJing is something very few can not do and thus not a skill.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsoKuaLERlk

So you're telling me, turntable trickery like that isn't a skill?
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recoil Jay wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsoKuaLERlk

So you're telling me, turntable trickery like that isn't a skill?


It is if you also include teaching a chimp to put trousers on as resulting in a skill.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Richie Hawtin has skill. Razz

[nerd vid] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1H9W_iLff0

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PostPosted: 13:25 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Recoil Jay wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsoKuaLERlk

So you're telling me, turntable trickery like that isn't a skill?


It is if you also include teaching a chimp to put trousers on as resulting in a skill.


You're comparing DJing to being a surgeon though, of course being a neural surgeon is far more advanced and skillful than this stuff, it's amazing but doesn't mean being a DJ isn't a skill. Could say the same thing about riding bikes and a superbike rider.

Sorry but to get to DMC level of word DJing championships, those guys have been doing it for like 10-15 years.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it comes down to ones real-world-useage definition of "skill". Compare DJing to playing a guitar or piano etc...where do they rate relative to each other? What does it take to learn to be a competant DJ vs a competant guitar-player?
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two entirely different skill sets. There's allot to learn in both, put it this way, if you swapped a DMC champion with an amazing guitar player for a day, I could guarantee that the DMC champion would have picked up the basics of playing a guitar but the guitair playing wouldn't have got anywhere on the decks.

It's not something you can just learn easily, it takes many years to get anywhere near 'alright' and many more to get to a level like that and therefore I would define it as a specialist skill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVGDxYtOdc&feature=related

I don't know if you understand what's actually being done there if you watch the routine, some people look at it and just think, sounds like a load of shit but if you actually DJ, you understand how fucking hard them cuts and scratches are and the timing. It takes an obscene amount of skill to do it, there's about 20 different things to do at the same time.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore hetzer, he doesnt get modern music, and thinks if it cant be played live, it's programming not real music, which has to be made by musicians.

The way I see it, art is all about the image created, whether thats with a paint brush or with a camera. The dutch masters would blur the line between the two, by using a camera obscura to project and image onto canvas, that they would then paint. Cheating ? Maybe but its all about the finished work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGbRpdCRwt0

This track is one of my favourites, and it wouldnt be the same without modern production techniques. Yes it could be done unplugged style, but I dont think we should only be able to listen to folk music.

Even folk music benefits from a fair amount of high tech production techniques.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFkmQMJXMaA

same thing without the benefit of production (not so good)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1tbX_NJn98

ok so they are cheating bastards, but i think cheating should be encouraged if it raises standards
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick up the basics of playing a guitar in a day? BS. As is you even trying to compare DJing to playing a guitar.

DJing rates on the same level as learning card-tricks. Skill? Like I said, it's all relative. But by my definition a skill is something exclusive; eg, something that most people can not do well, no matter how much time they're given.

Just about anyone could learn to DJ, given how little is actually involved.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Ignore hetzer, he doesnt get modern music, and thinks if it cant be played live, it's programming not real music, which has to be made by musicians.



Yeah. That's why my most favouritest music is Trance. Middle Finger Rolling Eyes

Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Pick up the basics of playing a guitar in a day? BS.


I've had guitars for years and still haven't learnt much. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm talking about picking up a guitar, and grasping the concept of playing strings, learning a few chords and generally strumming your bollocks off. I'm not saying you can pick up a guitair and play like slash instantly.

However, getting in front of a pair of decks, learning how to beatmatch isn't easy, then pitching all the controls, mixing two songs together seemlessly, isn't something you can easily pick up, even with an entire day.

My two comparisons are drawn from a guitar player who has never used a pair of turntables in their life and a DJ who has never picked up a guitar in their life.

Most people, with a few weeks of practice, can learn how to beatmatch and then learn how to mix two tracks but doing it to a level like above is another story.

Like I said originally though, they're both skillful things to be able to do with entirely different skill sets.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recoil Jay wrote:
A load of cods.


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PostPosted: 14:18 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah. That's why my most favouritest music is Trance. Middle Finger Rolling Eyes

Laughing


In which case you should know that a DJ does a bit more than put records on a turntable.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
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Yeah. That's why my most favouritest music is Trance. Middle Finger Rolling Eyes

Laughing


In which case you should know that a DJ does a bit more than put records on a turntable.


Yeah, he finds two that complement each other and fades one out at its end while fading the other in at its beginning. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 20 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recoil Jay wrote:
I'm talking about picking up a guitar, and grasping the concept of playing strings, learning a few chords and generally strumming your bollocks off. I'm not saying you can pick up a guitair and play like slash instantly.



Gonna go with Hetz here and say what a load of horseshit. Give a DJ a guitar and you'll be lucky if he can even hold the strings down properly in a day, let alone play a couple of chords, hell even remember a few chords and switch between them? No chance.

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However, getting in front of a pair of decks, learning how to beatmatch isn't easy, then pitching all the controls, mixing two songs together seemlessly, isn't something you can easily pick up, even with an entire day.


Right...so your arguing that a DJ being able to strum and knock out a few chords is comparable to being able to seamlessly mix one track into another....in which case you could argue back that yes, I want the DJ playing the November Rain solo at the end of day 1 Rolling Eyes

A guitarist would get to grips with a cross-fader pretty quickly, it's not all that hard, it goes left, left record plays, it goes right, right record plays. Any guitarist playing more than 6 months already has the concept of beat & rhythm, so then it's a case of concentrating on whats going on in the headphones and whats coming out the speakers and matching the beat. A day? Hmm dunno, whenever I've had a crack at it I'd say an hour and I had the jist of it, mixing anything from hip-hop, drum n'bass, house, and 2-step garage, but then I'd usually get bored by then, as I honestly can't see the excitement in DJ'ing in itself.

The DMC stuff is not DJ'ing in the proper sense, it's hardly mixing and beatmatching in the standard form, nor is it tolerable for more than 15 mins before it gets samey.

Don't get me wrong, I like the odd bit of scratching and DMC'ing here and there, but how these fuckers get paid £10,000k a set, and why the hell people pay £200 a ticket to get into clubs like Pasha in Ibiza just cuz Judge Jules will be operating a cross-fader that night I'll never know.

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