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chris_m2k10
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: 50cc customized chopper Reply with quote

hi,
i have a 50cc customized chopper, (electric and pull start)
the bike starts fine but when i pull the accelerator the bike just revs up and makes a ton of noise but does not go. i do not have a clue about 50cc bikes, i have put a new carb on it but it still has the same problem..
i have been customizing the bike for a year now and during customization, the engine has just been sitting around not doing anything, im not sure whether this is the problem. before the bike was stripped and customization began, the bike started and ran fine. all new performance parts have been put on it such a a rocket key, nitrous, fuel filter and more.
i am in need of urgent help as i need it finished to give back to my son.

thanks,
chris
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: 50cc customized chopper Reply with quote

chris_m2k10 wrote:
hi,
i have a 50cc customized chopper, (electric and pull start)
the bike starts fine but when i pull the accelerator the bike just revs up and makes a ton of noise but does not go. i do not have a clue about 50cc bikes, i have put a new carb on it but it still has the same problem..
i have been customizing the bike for a year now and during customization, the engine has just been sitting around not doing anything, im not sure whether this is the problem. before the bike was stripped and customization began, the bike started and ran fine. all new performance parts have been put on it such a a rocket key, nitrous, fuel filter and more.
i am in need of urgent help as i need it finished to give back to my son.

thanks,
chris


Presuming the 'obviouse'.... the drive chain or belt is fitted!
Or are you assuming its a twist & go, when it has gears, & yiur just revving it in neutral?

But, if twist & go, it'll be the centrifugal clutch.

Either the shoes are jammed & not engaging, or they are worn out.

If its a chineese 'toy' bike, thats actually the most likely. Clutches weren't great cop to begine with.

Normally on the right hand end of the crannk, as the bikes facing forward. Bit like a brake drum. Back-plate is attached to the crank, shoes held together by springs, when they spin, centrifugal forces throw them 'out' to grip inside the drum sitting around them, that usually runs on a bearing on the same shaft, and will have a belt drive on the outside or a gear, or sproket to take drive to the back-wheel.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: 50cc customized chopper Reply with quote

thanks for the reply.
i worded the question incorrectly.
the bike does actually move but it is very sluggish and im not sure why because before it was customized it worked fine.
thanks
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: 50cc customized chopper Reply with quote

chris_m2k10 wrote:
thanks for the reply.
i worded the question incorrectly.
the bike does actually move but it is very sluggish and im not sure why because before it was customized it worked fine.
thanks


Does it rev ok when not in gear?

Have you checked the brakes, as they maybe seized on Thumbs Up
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chris_m2k10
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: 50cc customized chopper Reply with quote

no it is a twist and go bike, it has no gears.
the brakes dont seem to seized on.
i think it is something to do with the engine itself because it does move, but it is not as fast as it used to be.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tuned it or jetted it to suit the modifications???

No one can really answer your question because you have fiddled with the bike and it is obviously not standard, who knows what you have done and what has caused the problem.


If you want the correct answer you need to be asking the right question.

Not having a clue about 50cc bikes. Wound not matter if it was a series I Landrover, same pricipal, its an internal combustion engine.


Could be something as simple as stale fuel. Stuck closed or open or clagged up needle&seat (float valve) blocked jet, wrong spark plug or dead spark plug, bad lead, bad earth.
Could be the other end of the scale. Youve put way too much performace gear on and its something mechanically wrong IE a 50cc version of a top fuel dragster and you are trying to run it with the carb off grandmas escort.

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PostPosted: 11:43 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are your tyres inflated properly? Correct chain? too much/not enough slack on chain.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the reply.. the tires are inflated properly.. but how much slack do i leave on the chain?
thanks
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris_m2k10 wrote:
thanks for the reply.. the tires are inflated properly.. but how much slack do i leave on the chain?
thanks


Approx 1.5cm's of movement Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your help
ill try that and get back to you if it doesn't work.
thanks
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chain expands and contracts with the weather. It's all down to testing - it ain't rocket science pal! The engines on these bikes are useless - power to weight ratio is no good - you most likely need a better engine - as to where you can find one that fits your frame is another problem.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris_m2k10 wrote:
watch who your talking 2 like that mate.. i aint no twat


Clearly not hence why your asking for help here.

He has a valid point we only have what you say to go on to guess what might be wrong and its pretty vague to be honest.

why not post a picture or a video and that'd give more of an idea of what your dealing with therefore increasing the accuracy and level of response.

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PostPosted: 12:12 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh but y be cocky bout it...
anyways this is off topic..
ill try and post a video of it and pictures.
thanks
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: 50cc customized chopper Reply with quote

chris_m2k10 wrote:
thanks for the reply.
i worded the question incorrectly.
the bike does actually move but it is very sluggish and im not sure why because before it was customized it worked fine.
thanks


sounds exactly like a chinese toy-bike with a worn clutch and stretched return springs.

Motor revs up; shoes come out to early, so engage drive when theres not enough power to pull the thing along.

Shoes slip, becouse drag greater than drive, wearing & glazing the shoes.

Accelerating harder, motor takes load, but doesn't spin faster, shoes still lack grip, bike doesn't move, or moves sluggishly, like it had a 100:1 reduction ratio or something.

Find a hill or give it a push to get it moving, (reduce the amount of drag, motor will spin up & bike willmove a bit more easily, but once load back on it, glazed worn pads wont transmit drive, bike slows down again, motor labouring but not reving.

CHECK THE CLUTCH
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please read rule 5
Thou Shalt Learn to Spell
Your writings here are your representation of yourself. If you come across as an illiterate seven year old, you will be treated as one. Please take the time to spell check and proof read your posts, there's no rush.
Try not to use texting language when writing replies pal.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

chris_m2k10 wrote:
SOUNDS LIKE UVE BEEN FIDDLING WITH YOUR BOYFRIENDS ARSE U BATTYMAN...


Can't believe Ive just stuck up for you in your other thread!

It seems you lost it when someone suggested a 50cc engine is underpowered, perhaps it wasn't put across with much tact but it was a fair enough statement.

Just chill your boots, some people are trying to help! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the fuck Confused

It is Saturday time for everyone to chill Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

i am chilled, but im in need of help and all i get abuse about my choice of bike, tunning it 2 make it quicker for my son and for just owning a chopped in general.
what is that all about?
leave it, no point arguing over a bike, i just need some help so i can fix this problem.
thanks
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike knows what he is talking about, So I suggestr you do as he said and check the clutch Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: .... Reply with quote

thanks..
shall do
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 21 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimmymac wrote:
The chain expands and contracts with the weather.

What planet are you on? Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 22 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Noxious89123, I am on the planet Earth. How about you?
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