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 Posted: 19:03 - 22 Aug 2010 Post subject: Hornet 600/900 |
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Did a search and nothing conclusive came up.
Today I had a decent 50 mile ride of a std (apart from race can) '99 hornet 600. It was very enjoyable. I liked the power delivery (could do with a bit more poke maybe) the front end didn't feel /that/ bad, but definatly could be a bit more stable feeling.
I've noticed these going for not a lot of money locally recently, and wouldn't mind picking one up as a bit of a commuter for winter or whatever.
Firstly, the 900's. Bikez states them at 110bhp, which seems a little low, and 196kg which seems a bit heavy. Would replacing the cams and carbs with the equivlent from the CBR do much for power gains (Or could the lump be dropped in with relative ease?) I was expecting more of a 110 at the wheel and 180kg, but oh well.
With the 600's is there an easily transplantable front end, such as a CBR-RR? and is there any way to unlock a few more ponies, such as full system + jetting? I know the obvious answer would be just to buy a cbr, but I want comfort. I plan on buying an FS650 in spring, so I want something I can commute on with a bit of poke and able to take a passenger, without fairings.
I understand they don't crash particularly well, are bits expensive?
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Pyro ____________________ Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX |
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 Posted: 19:35 - 22 Aug 2010 Post subject: Re: Hornet 600/900 |
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| Big_Ham wrote: | | pyroforlife wrote: |
With the 600's is there an easily transplantable front end, such as a CBR-RR? and is there any way to unlock a few more ponies, such as full system + jetting? I know the obvious answer would be just to buy a cbr, but I want comfort.
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RR end doesn't go in exactly easily, but it's do-able.
You can get more power out of them yes, I think low 90's are achievable with a full system, filter, CBR600F carbs, and blocking up the PAIR system. If that doesn't do it then a mild head skim will also get you there.
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Forgot to say I dislike fairings, although if the extent of getting power means swapping carbs and stuff over, seems like quite a lot of hassle. Maybe I'd just settle for std power.
What are they like on track? IIRC you took yours on track?
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 Posted: 19:55 - 22 Aug 2010 Post subject: Re: Hornet 600/900 |
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| Big_Ham wrote: | | pyroforlife wrote: |
What are they like on track? IIRC you took yours on track?
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As standard they are good. Expect to grind the pegs if it's standard and it'll be rather windy.
However. Fit a race shock, change the fork internals, fit rearsets and some sticky tyres they can easily hold their own in the fast group, even with a clown like me on board. . IMO I can't see the point in going down the more power route, they have enough for the road, and I certainly wasn't hindered on track by only have 85 odd bhp. |
Fair enough, racing suspension and that would probably be a good idea, the guy whose bike I rode today said the general opinion was that it didn't help (being an owner I listened to him)
The more power thing isn't really to go faster, I'd get used to the power and getting on earlier, it was more if it was easier to unlock more power cheaply I'd do it.
I'd rather have the above setup and a nice paintjob than 10 more bhp for the same money.
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well to mine i have :
ohlisn rear shock £200 of ebah
hagon fork springs £20 new of a mate
pilot power 2ct tyres
17" front wheel
and it has transformed it . when i first rode it after my zxr400 i thought oh my fucking lord what a pile of shite but now i like it i grind my pegs all the time so got some gilles.
the only BAD thing i cn think of is the utter shite brakes  ____________________ Current >Cb600fx hornet, ns125rk90 21.7bhp@wheel<
Sold >,zxr400 h2 (33bhp kit) rd350 n1 rd350 lc2< |
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I shoved some ohlins springs and thicker fork oil in the front of mine, This sorted the bottoming out and locking the front I experienced on track.
Rear end I didn't do anything to in the end, could still get my toes down with hornet cup rearsets. (I've still got them if you are interested.)
I didn't worry about more power, I downgeard mine a bike, one down and 3 up. It would then try to lift the front shifting from 2nd to third. Mine was a F2 model, apparently had the most power that year.
I also put renthals on mine, ultralows made it easer to tuck my elbow into the tank. Also braded hoses are a must, 2 line jobs.
I stuck some R&G's on mine, had 2 crashes (one at high speed) and only had to replace my front brake and the R&G itself.
How much is not a lot of money? I'm kinda tempted to get another one myself.
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I could lift the rear on my old Hornet... More technique and tyre grip IMO.
And Jay, I recently got one for £475
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I like mine a lot. I've been riding like a hamfisted idiot for the last 2 months after passing and I have still managed to get the pegs down and erased the previous owners chicken strips.
As mentioned, the brakes aren't great, they're a little better on the 2000> ones apparently so the 99 one you rode may have been sub par. A previous owner changed the fork oil in mine, I don't know what the standard ones feel like but to me I reckon the rear end is far worse. That might have something to do with it having a Macadam on the back but the shock is either so hard that it feels like I have a lump of granite in there or so soft that it pogos on bumpy B roads. My upgrades will be tyres, then braided lines and decent pads and then a decent shock.
Oh and if you do get one put some Renthal Ultra Lows on it. They are rather good  ____________________ Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 124 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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