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PostPosted: 09:42 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Riding with a pillion Reply with quote

I took a pillion for the first time yesterday and man in was uncomfortable, are there any tips for riding with an extra 13 stone on the back? I felt like I couldnt move at all Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its always wobbly the first time because you arent used to the extra weight on the bike. If it was their first time too then they arent used to riding pillion. Add the 2 together and its a nightmare.

I started taking my eldest out and about to save bus fare and at first it was a nightmare. She would fight the natural lean of the bike and wriggle around trying to get comfy which, when stopped at the lights isnt too bad, but doing 80 on the motorway its a nightmare. I had to tell her to sit still!

Now days tho, shes great, she's learnt that leaning with the bike isnt as scary as it seems and its a pleasure to take her anywhere.

What you have to do is remind them that they are, for want of a better word, luggage and they should act accordingly. Tell them to sit still. Dont look around, as much fun as the views are the constant moving of the head alters their body position and as a result the handling of the bike, Tell them that the best way to ride with you is to keep their eyes fixed on the back of your lid. That way if you lean over they will follow suit.

If they wriggle constantly tell them that you would rather have them uncomfy with their trousers up their arse than have them wriggle around and both fall off and get dead! Normally the getting dead speech sets it in their mind.

Dont wriggle around or we will fall off and get dead.
Dont attempt to take control of the bike or we will fall off and get dead.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with above, first time i took my other half on, was stiff as a post, leant against me, and wriggled around all the time..

But now shes great, and i have to say, the bike feels better with someone else on it too, extra weight plants it more
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
the bike feels better with someone else on it too, extra weight plants it more


+1

I have alot more confidence when chucking it into a corner when i have the missus on the back for that reason.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only pillion I've taken was a very petite lady who was also a horse rider. Strong thighs, massive boobs, about 8 stone wringing wet.

Ideal passenger!

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PostPosted: 12:01 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son was 11 when I took him on the back for the first time. I gave him my usual speach, 'relax, lean when I lean!'
After a couple of miles I stopped, turned to him and said, 'would you make up your mind which of my shoulders you want to look over?'

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PostPosted: 14:35 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them to sit further back.......

Always better when pillion weighs less than you, but even with a heavy weight it can be good. You just need to enforce the THIS IS MY SEAT rule....

Keep it smooth, so there is no head banging and sliding around on the seat.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first time I rode pillion was on my great uncles honda blackbird. he may be getting on..but he sure knows how to open the throttle! i lost count of the number of time i headbutted his back during gear changes from trying not to fall off the back!
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
The only pillion I've taken was a very petite lady who was also a horse rider. Strong thighs, massive boobs, about 8 stone wringing wet.

Ideal passenger!

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PostPosted: 09:23 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind the pics! Phone number! Laughing

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PostPosted: 10:55 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding with a pillion Reply with quote

vic2479 wrote:
are there any tips for riding with an extra 13 stone on the back? I felt like I couldnt move at all Shocked


Brake gently. The first time you hit the brakes too hard your pillion will slide down the seat and crush your nuts against the tank, and you're stuck that way for the rest of the afternoon.

Some bikes are more suited to carrying a passenger than others, naturally. Also - some are better for rider, some for passenger. I'm happy enough with my other half on the back of the FZ1 but she always preferred being on the VFR.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned in similar threads, i drag a little rear brake when doing slow speed manuevers. Find it keeps the bike very stable, in town esp.

Using the rear when coming to a halt lessens the forkdive effect.
Need to scrub speed smoothly and quickly i.e wet corner/roundabout then use some rear brake. (mine is drum, so very progressive)...experiment to find the 'biting point' for want of a better term.

The pillion may get into biking themselves...so don't put them off by frightening them. I have friends who still recount their 1st pillion journey, and say "never again".


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PostPosted: 17:32 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read the tread Pillion Tips?
Its on page 2...... lots of advice in ther on the topic.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add a bit of preload to the rear shock if it's easy to do.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
Agreed with above, first time i took my other half on, was stiff as a post, leant against me, and wriggled around all the time..

But now shes great, and i have to say, the bike feels better with someone else on it too, extra weight plants it more
Hooray- I have a use! Off to hold DH's face in front of the screen until he reads this and says I am not a dead weight after all.

It's taken us about 4/5 outings to get used to each other- I haven't clonked him for ages now and do really good leaning and everything.

Worst thing I find is that when we start off, my right foot seems to be in the way of his, so I have to keep my right foot tippy toe on the pedal and hope my leg doesn't decide to flail out at right angles or something.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Digit wrote:
Never mind the pics! Phone number! Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:48 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoil sport! Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:42 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tell my missus to keep an eye on the road too, so she knows whats going on. It amazing how much of a difference it makes when your pillion knows your going to brake/accelerate.

Its the little things eh?
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragstaar wrote:
I tell my missus to keep an eye on the road too, so she knows whats going on. It amazing how much of a difference it makes when your pillion knows your going to brake/accelerate.

Its the little things eh?
Hmm- ok, so I broke two of the rules tonight- firstly, I wasn't paying attention then panicked when I saw what I thought was a lorry coming towards us- turned out to be a reflection in DH's helmet....

the other was expressing my concern for the sports car flying towards us on a very bendy green lane by tightening my arms. Honestly, I thought that's why men did fast corners, so they could get a free squeeze. It's not like I broke a rib or anything.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbkmatt wrote:
the first time I rode pillion was on my great uncles honda blackbird. he may be getting on..but he sure knows how to open the throttle! i lost count of the number of time i headbutted his back during gear changes from trying not to fall off the back!


Talk to your unc about clutchless gear changes, essential when carrying a pillion
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Mick wrote:
mbkmatt wrote:
the first time I rode pillion was on my great uncles honda blackbird. he may be getting on..but he sure knows how to open the throttle! i lost count of the number of time i headbutted his back during gear changes from trying not to fall off the back!


Talk to your unc about clutchless gear changes, essential when carrying a pillion


I for one didn't realise clutchless was essential with a pillion? Shocked

Anyway, for he who may require:

https://www.datacraftsystems.co.uk/techniques/techniques_left/clutchless.htm

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took my first pillions this week, there's nothing quite like the gripping thighs of a nervous/excited lady and a nice squeeze round the middle!
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

slyrob wrote:
I took my first pillions this week, there's nothing quite like the gripping thighs of a nervous/excited lady and a nice squeeze round the middle!
Unless you're my husband, apparently. Suspect he may be gay. It's the only explanation I can think of.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

slyrob wrote:
I took my first pillions this week, there's nothing quite like the gripping thighs of a nervous/excited lady and a nice squeeze round the middle!


Aha! I love this part of it Very Happy have to say.. the boobs do help support my back, better on longer journeys..
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
Aha! I love this part of it Very Happy have to say.. the boobs do help support my back, better on longer journeys..

Evil or Very Mad Well, we're going out in a moment. You're just making this worse for him...
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