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Which is more important?
experiences
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Experience/memories vs stuff? Reply with quote

As an off shoot of this thread which had some people debating material goods vs experiences and spending money on experiences

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=203525&highlight=

What do people think is more important? To accumilate stuff, whatever this might be? Or to experience things and do things with the money instead?.

Personally I've moved all the way to experiences above stuff because I only have one life and I don't believe material goods are key to happiness no matter what advertisers may attempt to tell us.

What do you think?
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also opted for Experiences despite the fact my bedroom is loaded with music recording gear etc. That's irrelevant in light of how I want to live my life.

I believe material goods/possessions do indeed help people live a life full of experiences (stop me if I'm waffling on) but I also think too many material possessions and you're gonna come to a standstill.

Mark, I think it's a good thing. (Providing you still had your licence) you could just whack stuff on your bike and sod off wherever you want for however long you want.

People with a material lifestyle will struggle with things that 'experience type' people won't.

I know, I'm chatting shit Laughing

Infact, I don't know why I typed the above Shocked

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PostPosted: 18:47 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have "stuff" such as a ZX6R & a good stereo & my pc but I care nothing for them if I was to compere them to the good experiences I have had in my life.
If someone stole my "stuff" I would have the right hump, but if someone stopped me from doing things and living life I would be totally gutted.
I dont have long on this planet and I cant take my "stuff" with me, but I can take my memories with me Smile

WOW Shocked that was deep!!
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, I'm kinda of the opinion that in certain cases stuff=experiences. I don't really go on very many holidays, or spend my money on other things that aren't material apart from gigs.

I don't have a pimping TV/Home cinema, high spec computers, expensive clothes, flash car.

However the things I do spend my money on are;

My Bikes - holidays, exploration, the social side of it
Guitars - the experience to play with/perform for
Skis/Snowboard - pretty self explanatory...
Decent (some would say poncy) food and drink - enjoying consuming, sharing with others

So yeah, it's possible to have a bit of both surely?
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask anyone who has seen my bike kit, or my phone, or my tv to answer that one.

The only shopping I ever seem to do, is food shopping and petrol.

But I am happy in my choice. I don't have the latest gadgets, I don't have a mortgage, I don't have fashionable items (although oddly enough I do find that sometimes I am 'in' fashion due to what comes back round.. Laughing )

I save for adventures and sightseeing and socialising. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of very meaningful experiences and memories are had by virtue of acquiring and owning stuff, so in many cases the lines are blurred. In my opinion both are equally important, generally speaking.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am on the fence, similar to Hetzer. I don't have lots of stuff. But I have some stuff that have provided me with meaning full life experience. Ack, this will sound nerdy but my PC and bicycle I am very attached too. Quite some time ago when the interwebs was new I moved to a new home, on my own, in an area I didn't know. Pretty much all I had was a bike and a PC. Both of which got me through a few years rough years of barely enough money to feed myself by way of relaxing bike rides and lots of MMORPG's.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 14 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going for stuff. All of the stand out brilliant experiences of my life have all happened because I had stuff to get me there (mainly drums and bikes).
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Memories fade, stuff can last forever.

I choose stuff.
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Experience every time, though you might need some stuff in order to have those experiences - can't ride hard on a good road without a bike, for example. When I left my house yesterday, I was thinking to myself that, much as I like the place, and the freedom it brings (remote area, no close neighbours), if it burnt down, there'd be little I'd miss.

My dad died a year ago today, and when we cleared the house it was so full of the things he had considered important in life, right back to old 78s in a trunk in the loft. Pretty much all of it ended up getting dumped, and most of it hadn't seen the light of day for decades.
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a major clear out of old stuff around the house recently. Couldn't believe the amount that I'd hoarded over the years, and most of it hasn't seen daylight for some years

so for me, experiences / memories come first
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted experiences.

Stuff is replacable and material therefore not important.

Your experiences is what makes you the person you are therefore important.

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PostPosted: 08:21 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you consider an experience, the best experiences don't cost anything/a hell of a lot.

As an example, I'd rather trek and camp in a british national park and spend the money I saved on 'stuff' than blow thousands on doing the same thing abroad.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff allows me to have more reoccurring experiences.
Ie, I could go on an 'off road try out day' for the experience, or could buy an off-road bike and have a lot of more-fun off road experiences.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, 90% say experience, and yet cock loads of you have I-phones and are sat shivering in Britain 365 a year.

One of those questions that has only one answer people say, but everyone else knows if they're a stuff or experience person.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of both.

As others have said, sometimes the stuff facilitates the experience. Are my car and bikes 'stuff'? Or are they 'experience machines'?

I just bought a house (stuff) which I'm completely renovating (more stuff). But it isn't just about accumulating stuff, it's also about the experience of taking a shell and turning it into exactly what I want, and then the experience of living in it. And hopefully there'll be a great deal of statisfaction, since I'm doing as much as possible by myself (experience) rather than paying others to.

Some stuff is just stuff. But if they give me pleasure, isn't that an experience. I bought a red microwave yesterday, it makes me happy. A white one wouldn't make me think anything. Laughing


As to the original 'spend £13,000 on a wedding' thing that inspired this thread... it seems like a stunning waste of money to me. £13,000 buys one hell of a holiday (experience!) or makes a good start on a house deposit (experience & stuff?)... I could think of a thousand things I'd rather spend it on than an over-priced one day show off.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Bit of both.

As others have said, sometimes the stuff facilitates the experience. Are my car and bikes 'stuff'? Or are they 'experience machines'?

I just bought a house (stuff) which I'm completely renovating (more stuff). But it isn't just about accumulating stuff, it's also about the experience of taking a shell and turning it into exactly what I want, and then the experience of living in it. And hopefully there'll be a great deal of statisfaction, since I'm doing as much as possible by myself (experience) rather than paying others to.

Some stuff is just stuff. But if they give me pleasure, isn't that an experience. I bought a red microwave yesterday, it makes me happy. A white one wouldn't make me think anything. Laughing


As to the original 'spend £13,000 on a wedding' thing that inspired this thread... it seems like a stunning waste of money to me. £13,000 buys one hell of a holiday (experience!) or makes a good start on a house deposit (experience & stuff?)... I could think of a thousand things I'd rather spend it on than an over-priced one day show off.


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PostPosted: 13:09 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for experience but stuff is just as valid I think.

I don't have any shiny stuff, no expensive phone or stereo, my bike is shit. I can afford that kind of thing but I don't buy it. I wonder if when I couldn't afford it that was the main reason I felt I needed to have that kind of thing?

A friend of mine was talking about a film he'd watched called The Bucket List. I didn't see it myself but he said it was evocative and made you think about what you've missed out on in life.

It made me think that memories and experience comes from stuff you either buy or come by somehow. You buy a holiday and dine off the memories (as it were) for a few years or you buy an iPhone (for reasons which escape me entirely) and for a few years you have an iPhone and all the joys having such an object in your life brings.

Its sort of the same thing.

I had an extremely depressing thought after my friends mawkish remarks about the bucket list in so far as, it doesn't really matter what you do in life, at the end of it your dead and you can't take any of it with you; it does beg the question; whats the point in anything?

A bit like saying 'I'd hate to fall ill and die as it would be really upsetting for my parents'. It would but you'd be dead so not in any shape to feel bad about it.

Anyway, my muddled point was, it doesn't matter what you chose, the pleasure is only fleeting, at the end of the day you'll die and there isn't a holiday or an app for that.

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PostPosted: 13:13 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
A lot of very meaningful experiences and memories are had by virtue of acquiring and owning stuff, so in many cases the lines are blurred. In my opinion both are equally important, generally speaking.


I think Hetz had probably hit the nail on the head with this one. I would say the experiences, but there are plenty of expierences I would have never had if I didn't have stuff that made it possible.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:


I had an extremely depressing thought after my friends mawkish remarks about the bucket list in so far as, it doesn't really matter what you do in life, at the end of it your dead and you can't take any of it with you;
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:


Yes you can.


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PostPosted: 15:46 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:
Hetzer wrote:


Yes you can.


If I crash on my bike, will I end up in heaven with a sports bike... Thinking


According to annecdotal evidence you can create your own reality while you're 'up' there.

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PostPosted: 15:49 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:


According to annecdotal evidence you can create your own reality while you're 'up' there.


Oh aye... ? Care to name your source?

Crazy Al that smells of piss and lives behind Tesco probably isn't the most credible source.
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