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 Posted: 10:04 - 16 Sep 2010 Post subject: Gears: How do you do it? |
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I'm interested in knowing what people think and prefer.
When I was learning to ride, I was advised to go from 1st gear to 5th/6th as soon as possible and ride there.
I've since been reading SuperBike Magazine and their riding coaches recommend riding in a gear where you can feel the engine, with higher revs, giving more control and more response.
How do you do it? ____________________ Jonny (Riding his Kawasaki ZX6R J1)
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If I'm commuting or just taking it easy, I ride in a higher gear and just roll along...
But if I'm having a "spirited" ride, keep it in a lower gear, with higher revs for better throttle response ____________________ 1st bike (Sept'06 - May'10) : 1991 GPZ500S / Current bike (since Nov 2009) : 2003 Suzuki Bandit 600N
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Same as others have said for me -
if I'm giving it beans I stay lower for better response and traction.
pottering I go high (but not too high that I loose the exhaust note.. ).
If you have a pillion short shifting is more comfy for them as it makes it alot smoother.
Must admit to doing a lot of block gear changes both up and down.
Bike engines don't like staying in low revs generally.. it's not that good for them.
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 Posted: 13:59 - 16 Sep 2010 Post subject: Re: Gears: How do you do it? |
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| jonny2010 wrote: | I'm interested in knowing what people think and prefer.
When I was learning to ride, I was advised to go from 1st gear to 5th/6th as soon as possible and ride there.
I've since been reading SuperBike Magazine and their riding coaches recommend riding in a gear where you can feel the engine, with higher revs, giving more control and more response.
How do you do it? |
I dont know when you learned to ride, or who tought you, but instruction in CBT has always been that you should alays be in as 'responsive' a gear as possible. Its the deafult fail-safe.
That doesn't necesserily mean a lower gear, too low a gear is just as unresponsive as a higher one, if you cant get it to change speed 'cos you are too close to the red-line.
And I guess thats pretty much how I ride. on the 750, spends most of its time in 3rd, being treated like an auto!
But I come from Trials riding where on the old bikes I've always ridden they';ve had almost 'pre-select' gear-boxes, and 'response' is paramount! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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| G wrote: | I was taught to short-shift in both my CBTs. |
| Rowey wrote: | I was taught to short shift too. Think they call it economic driving/riding nowadays. |
I find that curiouse; I know that in CARS they teach you to get up the box early, but on bikes, with revier engines, and typically teaching students on little bikes, that haven't got the grunt to haul-tall, I really find that surprising.
Was wondering if it may be an instructor thing, as much CBT instruction is done by Down-Trained instructors rather than Cardington Qualified ones trained to train, but then would have expected them to default to responsive gears..... mind you they keep changing teh advice in teh book & I have to confess I haven't instruycted in over 3 years, but there you go. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | I find that curious; I know that in CARS they teach you to get up the box early, but on bikes, with revier engines, and typically teaching students on little bikes, that haven't got the grunt to haul-tall, I really find that surprising.
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My CBT was a long time ago now. But I assumed it was to do with saving fuel, prolonging bike life and just getting used to gears. Although I totally agree, and practice, that the bike should be kept in the most responsive gear.
A year or so ago when I passed my car test it was a box on the marking sheet, something along the lines of economic driving. It was explained to me as not over revving the engine, progressive breaking, reading the road ahead and forward planning. All of those should mean a smoother/safer drive as well as better fuel consumption. ____________________ ZX6R C6F.
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