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 Posted: 11:11 - 23 Sep 2010 Post subject: Chinese Rigs as good as their Bikes!?! |
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Christ add a bit of choppy salt water and they fall to bits.
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Two oil workers are missing and more than 30 have been rescued from a rig off China's north-east coast, which was damaged in a storm, state media says.
Helicopters and rescue boats are searching for two people who fell from the platform, which is listing at a 45-degree angle in the Shengli oil field.
The oil field, operated by Sinopec, is the second-largest in China.
Sinopec said no oil has been spilled, and said powerful waves generated by Typhoon Malou were the likely cause.
Rescue workers in helicopters saved 34 people from the rig about five nautical miles (9km) off Dongying in Shandong province, China's transport ministry said.
The rescue took place at 0600 local time (2200 GMT Tuesday) after the incident was reported late on Tuesday,
The accident comes just weeks after China's worst oil spill, after a fire at an oil depot caused crude oil to leak into the sea for several days. |
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Those 3 leg jack-ups are a pretty shit design for bad weather..
I wouldn't rate the Chinese any less than Texans ... have you worked with those nutters
I'm surprised half the gulf of Mexico is not up in flames... almost feel sorry for BP because more than likely their 'contracted' rig was staffed up by a bunch of red-neck locals and then you get that twat Obama talking complete shit about probably one of the top 5, safest companies in the business  |
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| Deckx wrote: | Those 3 leg jack-ups are a pretty shit design for bad weather..
I wouldn't rate the Chinese any less than Texans ... have you worked with those nutters
I'm surprised half the gulf of Mexico is not up in flames... almost feel sorry for BP because more than likely their 'contracted' rig was staffed up by a bunch of red-neck locals and then you get that twat Obama talking complete shit about probably one of the top 5, safest companies in the business  |
Aye I've worked with a few Texan, Mississippi, Alabama and Carolina boys. Jeezus, Mary and Joseph they are some of the most unsafe idiots in the industry.
We had a Texan OIM who was a complete twat. He used to sit on his fat chewin bacca arse and use the safety announcment PA to shout at roustabouts on the cantilver or at the driller in the doghouse. It'd be about 10am, I'd be sleeping having just finnished nights and usually get woken up with "Why aint big Yella movin'!! God dammit boy!" blaring over the tannoy if the pipe tripping times fell below 1min a stand! .
Thankfully most of the 'merkans have been weeded out of te company. It's mostly just Ozzy's, Jocks a couple of Croatians, Portugese and an Englishman (equal oppertunities and aw that ) on our Jack-up.
Yeah Obama was stupid to try and heap all the blame on to BP ("British Pertrolium" twat ) they only have a few guys on the rig and all they do is supply the drilling programme. It was the BOP and a shitty cement job that was at fault so the blame should fall on Cameron, Haliburton and Transocean. Plus the Snr Inst tech has said that most of thte H2S and CH4 sensors where inhibited therefore stopping any advance warning of escaping gas going off. I think that cost a few lives. But the BOP should have been working and the Driller/Toolphers should have been able to control the well, if not then last resort punch the shear rams, which evidently failed.
The small "pile" type jack-ups are only really for very shallow water and wouldnt hold up to much wind and swell. I looks like the bow leg failed and it just crumbled down.
Ours is a 3-leg design with lattice type with 506' legs. Still didnt stop it punching through 16 meters in the Bass straight mind you! thank fuck I hadnt been transfered here yet
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| WishayKillie wrote: | | Deckx wrote: | Those 3 leg jack-ups are a pretty shit design for bad weather..
I wouldn't rate the Chinese any less than Texans ... have you worked with those nutters
I'm surprised half the gulf of Mexico is not up in flames... almost feel sorry for BP because more than likely their 'contracted' rig was staffed up by a bunch of red-neck locals and then you get that twat Obama talking complete shit about probably one of the top 5, safest companies in the business  |
Aye I've worked with a few Texan, Mississippi, Alabama and Carolina boys. Jeezus, Mary and Joseph they are some of the most unsafe idiots in the industry.
We had a Texan OIM who was a complete twat. He used to sit on his fat chewin bacca arse and use the safety announcment PA to shout at roustabouts on the cantilver or at the driller in the doghouse. It'd be about 10am, I'd be sleeping having just finnished nights and usually get woken up with "Why aint big Yella movin'!! God dammit boy!" blaring over the tannoy if the pipe tripping times fell below 1min a stand! .
Thankfully most of the 'merkans have been weeded out of te company. It's mostly just Ozzy's, Jocks a couple of Croatians, Portugese and an Englishman (equal oppertunities and aw that ) on our Jack-up.
Yeah Obama was stupid to try and heap all the blame on to BP ("British Pertrolium" twat ) they only have a few guys on the rig and all they do is supply the drilling programme. It was the BOP and a shitty cement job that was at fault so the blame should fall on Cameron, Haliburton and Transocean. Plus the Snr Inst tech has said that most of thte H2S and CH4 sensors where inhibited therefore stopping any advance warning of escaping gas going off. I think that cost a few lives. But the BOP should have been working and the Driller/Toolphers should have been able to control the well, if not then last resort punch the shear rams, which evidently failed.
The small "pile" type jack-ups are only really for very shallow water and wouldnt hold up to much wind and swell. I looks like the bow leg failed and it just crumbled down.
Ours is a 3-leg design with lattice type with 506' legs. Still didnt stop it punching through 16 meters in the Bass straight mind you! thank fuck I hadnt been transfered here yet
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What I can't stand is this snobbishness towards chinese oil rigs. It's like everyone's been brainwashed into thinking that US or British oil rigs are sooo much better, when in actual fact, well, yes they are. But still, eh.
Take it from me, I've bought oil plenty of times, yes, I've been to many a Halfords, and the oil, whether it's from a chinese oil rig or a american one is as good, if not better, but it might be worse if it isn't better, so long as you don't buy oil with spokes. Oil with spokes is probably trash.
There isn't a British or American oil rig that doesn't have some chinese men on, and only a handful of those aren't originally 'made in china'. Moreover, there aren't even any US oil rigs with chinese men, it's just americans with sellotape on their faces to look like chinese workers, calling themselves Xing, and Xong, and other chinesey sounding names.
I hear people complaining that chinese oil rigs rust much quicker than american ones, but have you ever left an oil rig in your garden over the winter? That's right, it's just as rusty, if not a lot more rusty, as an american oil rig made entirely of plastic, ever notice that? Nor me.
That's not to say that chinese oil rigs are better, even though they are, but there are some things you need to watch out for;
1) Legs. Stay away from any chinese oil rigs that use legs to raise them above the water line. Can't explain why as I have no idea and just made it up anyway.
2) Oil flange mud pump drill bit twisty things. If a chinese oil rig has these make sure they're made of diamond coated titatnium carbon fibre platinum, or stay the hell away.
3) If the oil rig comes in a box, ask yourself this; how the fuck am I going to build an enormous oil rig in the back garden? Am I even qualified to build an oil rig? Why don't I have a 300mm spanner?
4) If the rig is already built ask the question: how am I going to get a bloody massive oil rig down my narrow street? Whose idea was this? What were they thinking. ffs?
5) Yes, the rigs are the same. Exactly the same. Built by different people to different quality controls with different materials in a different country with different safety restrictions, but otherwise EXACTLY the same.
6) Quality engineering is what makes British and American rigs last so much longer, not rocket science. If your chinese oil rig falls to bits very quickly, that means you have been using it.
So, while chinese rigs are as equally good in quality as western rigs, except when they're not, and they never are, let's just stop this brainwashing and realise that western rigs are no better than chinese rigs. Apart from when they are. Which is all the time. ____________________ A Guide To Powerbands |
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| CHR15 wrote: | | Quote: | It's "stands" of drill pipe. Each one made up of three 30ft "singles" to form a 90ft "stand", these all get fed down one by one until they reach their depth anything up to 30,000 - 35,000ft on a jack-up. |
they dont look like they have a very big diameter?
what stops them going like > U and coming back up behind you? |
I've seen a pic of a land rig in Russia that drilled back up to the surface about 1km from the rig
You need to have that flexibility to enable you to "steer" the string to the target. You control all that with fancy downhole tools and with the amount of weight you apply to the drill string.
Drill pipe ranges from 2,7/8" up to about 6,5/8". But you get bigger drill bits and then you can run up to 30" casing too.
The easiest way to thing about it is like making up a big telescope in the ground. You run your big casing, cement it in, then drill the next section, run in smaller casing, cement that in, drill a smaller hole again, run in casing, cament etc, etc. ____________________ Current; 10' Aprilia Dorsoduro 750.
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here's a pic of the last rig i worked on..... Sank as they were towing it from the Fabrication yard over in Texas.... Had to do a complete re-build so a 6 month commissioning contract for me turned into a 3 year job... must have been the fucked up project i will ever be on but as the saying goes "Chaos equals cash"
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 121 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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