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AJ
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: oil oil everywhere not a drop to drink Reply with quote

started bike up today, noitced oil coming up and out from where the spark plug goes, also noticed oil running out from below the head, so I'm guessing that the head gasket has blown. Now the bike is a bandit 600 and it's oil cooled so no water problems Very Happy but would the oil come up and out from where the spak plug is? or could that be piston rings gone as well. I did notice that number four plug lead was vibrating and none of the other three were

any info would be great before I start ripping the engine apart.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odd how it's coming out from round the sparkplug, that ought to be sealed. That makes me wonder if you've just had a loose sparkplug, allowing fuel to leak out all over the head. The fuel would probably look black from the carbon inside the engine.

I'd suggest you wash off all the oil then have a look to see exactly where it is coming from.

I remember once thinking a head gasket was blowing oil on my mates GPZ500 because there was oil all over the head area. Turns out it had shat its fork oil seals and the leaking fork oil was blowing back and clagging itself on the engine.

If it's definately got oil appearing from round the join of the head and the barrel, you'll need to tear down the top end and have a good look at it. Minimum would be a new head gasket.

If you have access to a compression tester, this would tell you if the rings were gone by comparing compression on the four cylinders. That said, even if they are, it shouldn't make oil appear outside the engine.

Maybe worth checking your crankcase breather isn't blocked.

Do some sums before you tear it down and order parts (that compression test could be handy). If you're going to need a piston kit and a gasket set, it can all add up. I've seen complete engines for as little as £120 (there's one on ebay right now with 19k on it).
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AJ
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for that, will have a looksie at spark plug to see if its loose (its usually the simple things we overlook).

Will double check breather.

Head is definately leaking had bike on stand and on tickover and its like a cut not gushing out but seeping quite badly,

I have been looking at engines on ebay as my poor bugger is on 79000. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocker cover gaskets around the spark plugs might be knakered if it's coming out of spark plug holes. Is it the head gasket leaking or the rubber one under the rocker cover?
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

woll wrote:
Rocker cover gaskets around the spark plugs might be knakered if it's coming out of spark plug holes.


What he said.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 25 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
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I'd say you have piston ring problem, or even the piston itself is shattered in some places. Shocked Stinkwheel gave good advice on compression test: that would determine if the piston is in OK condition.

The oil in 4-stroke engines stays on the bottom deck where the crankshaft is connected to the piston arm and there is little to no chance of it getting on top - to the spark plug.



if you don't know what your talking about, keep your fuckin mouth shut.


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PostPosted: 11:18 - 25 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirEdward wrote:
I'd say you have piston ring problem, or even the piston itself is shattered in some places.

Firstly, F*cking lulz.

Secondly, how the f*ck would you come to that conclusion that from an oil leak?

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The oil in 4-stroke engines stays on the bottom deck where the crankshaft is connected to the piston arm and there is little to no chance of it getting on top - to the spark plug.

You know nothing.

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Rocker cover gaskets around the spark plugs might be knakered if it's coming out of spark plug holes.

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PostPosted: 11:57 - 25 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirEdward wrote:


The oil in 4-stroke engines stays on the bottom deck where the crankshaft is connected to the piston arm and there is little to no chance of it getting on top - to the spark plug.


You were joking when you said this eh!
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, the Suzuki oil-cooled engines. Laughing I'll stay out of this thread.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirEdward wrote:
Ahh, the Suzuki oil-cooled engines. Laughing I'll stay out of this thread.


Too late.

The bullshite has been spewed all over this thread from your uninformed self.

Well done.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki must be a part of Yakuza; they gang up on you if you ever talk about the wonders of their oil-cooled engines. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirEdward wrote:
Suzuki must be a part of Yakuza; they gang up on you if you ever talk about the wonders of their oil-cooled engines. Laughing


Just stop talking will you.

AJ, have you cleaned up the rocker cover and checked for leaks yet?

There might be two small leaks making the situation look worse than it really is.

Did you do a compression test?
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirEdward wrote:
Suzuki must be a part of Yakuza; they gang up on you if you ever talk about the wonders of their oil-cooled engines. Laughing



Dayum.


Timon wrote:
Just stop talking will you.


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PostPosted: 15:28 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
+1 for rocker cover joint issue. I know the GS500 has drains in the spark plug wells which usually redirect the excess oil onto the fron of the engine. A mate of mine spent ages figuring out where it was coming from!

Kaw 500 twins are the same way.
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