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 AJ Nitrous Nuisance
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 Posted: 15:29 - 24 Sep 2010 Post subject: oil oil everywhere not a drop to drink |
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started bike up today, noitced oil coming up and out from where the spark plug goes, also noticed oil running out from below the head, so I'm guessing that the head gasket has blown. Now the bike is a bandit 600 and it's oil cooled so no water problems but would the oil come up and out from where the spak plug is? or could that be piston rings gone as well. I did notice that number four plug lead was vibrating and none of the other three were
any info would be great before I start ripping the engine apart. |
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Odd how it's coming out from round the sparkplug, that ought to be sealed. That makes me wonder if you've just had a loose sparkplug, allowing fuel to leak out all over the head. The fuel would probably look black from the carbon inside the engine.
I'd suggest you wash off all the oil then have a look to see exactly where it is coming from.
I remember once thinking a head gasket was blowing oil on my mates GPZ500 because there was oil all over the head area. Turns out it had shat its fork oil seals and the leaking fork oil was blowing back and clagging itself on the engine.
If it's definately got oil appearing from round the join of the head and the barrel, you'll need to tear down the top end and have a good look at it. Minimum would be a new head gasket.
If you have access to a compression tester, this would tell you if the rings were gone by comparing compression on the four cylinders. That said, even if they are, it shouldn't make oil appear outside the engine.
Maybe worth checking your crankcase breather isn't blocked.
Do some sums before you tear it down and order parts (that compression test could be handy). If you're going to need a piston kit and a gasket set, it can all add up. I've seen complete engines for as little as £120 (there's one on ebay right now with 19k on it). ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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 AJ Nitrous Nuisance
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 Posted: 16:56 - 24 Sep 2010 Post subject: |
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thanks for that, will have a looksie at spark plug to see if its loose (its usually the simple things we overlook).
Will double check breather.
Head is definately leaking had bike on stand and on tickover and its like a cut not gushing out but seeping quite badly,
I have been looking at engines on ebay as my poor bugger is on 79000.  |
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Rocker cover gaskets around the spark plugs might be knakered if it's coming out of spark plug holes. Is it the head gasket leaking or the rubber one under the rocker cover? ____________________ Current Bike- Suzuki DRZ400 SM K6
Previous bikes - Derbi Senda Xtreme50r, Honda CBR 125, Kawasaki ZZR 250, Yamaha DT125R, Suzuki Bandit 600, Gas gas ec 250, Honda CBR600FW
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-Sir, we have a hull breach on the port side, and oil is coming in from everyywheere!
-Abandon ship!
I remember the time(s) I've flooded my engine with coolant liquid on Aprilia RS 125. Good times.
I'd say you have piston ring problem, or even the piston itself is shattered in some places. Stinkwheel gave good advice on compression test: that would determine if the piston is in OK condition.
The oil in 4-stroke engines stays on the bottom deck where the crankshaft is connected to the piston arm and there is little to no chance of it getting on top - to the spark plug. ____________________ "Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
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Ahh, the Suzuki oil-cooled engines. I'll stay out of this thread. ____________________ "Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
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Suzuki must be a part of Yakuza; they gang up on you if you ever talk about the wonders of their oil-cooled engines.  ____________________ "Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
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Old Thread Alert!
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