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MaybeGuy
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: KTM380EXC Reply with quote

what's the going rate for these?

I've got a friend who's selling one to another friend of mine (they dont know eachother), and i dont really want to be the one being the middle man if anyone finds out they're under or overpaying.

bike in question is a 2000 W reg (RWU forks)
comes with a spare set of plastics, 2 exhausts and road kit (road reg'd obv, but no tax or test when sold)

it's tidy for its age, and runs spot on.

google image, but looks near enough exactly like this but with different forks.


https://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g13/CaMojo/KTM690Rally/KTM380.jpg
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!! Mr. Green
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith


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PostPosted: 20:51 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a rare bike, i would say anything from 800-1300
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the offer currently stands at 1400, so not too far off if you're right about the upper limit. i think 800 is far too low. thats early EGS/LC4 territory.

aand its to be his first proper enduro Twisted Evil

EDIT: arent you a devonite? we're out enduroing on friday/sat
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are a nice very grunty and rare enduro bike, much like the Husqvarna WRE360 is, as the bigger than 300cc 2 strokes were not sold for very long. I expect that people wern't buying them, as they have probably too much power for most people and i remember an MX mag testing one years ago, and saying it was within about 3-4bhp of a std Honda CR500, but alot more lively to ride.

I wouldn't think that there are too many around for sale either, so your mate should get a decent price for it, if anyone wants to buy such a beast!
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: KTM 380 EXC Reply with quote

I actually see them pop up quite regularly. For rare, KTM made a 550 stroker too!

I'd agree on the pricing delvey91 posted. 1400 should get you a newer model KTM, though prices do seem to have been holding fairly high recently.
Can't find details, but could swear I've seen one recently (been browsing KTMs for sale) for £1300 with both sets of wheels maybe (definitely had SM). There is one on ebay for £1750, but think he's dreaming a bit, though it is quite shiny, with mot, history etc.
I'd be suspicious of the age if it's got right way up forks, thought they had upside down then, though they do change about a bit.

My first proper enduro bike was a non-powervalve 87 KTM350enduro and I found it find - had so plenty enough power off-pipe that you could just chug along, then spin it up as it got on-pipe.

Where are you enduroing on Friday?
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PostPosted: 03:16 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

picked it up friday and its going to be pretty gnarly whatever its used for.

the plans for it to turn it into a slightly more sedate laner are as follows:

> stock exhaust system (keeping the doma system because the owner is a fag and wants to SM it at some point

> retard the ignition slightly

> close the powervalve

should give it a nice bit of bottom end and a progressive band. the rings are also being done as a matter of course to save agro down the line
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:


> stock exhaust system (keeping the doma system because the owner is a fag and wants to SM it at some point

> retard the ignition slightly

> close the powervalve


would you no do beter to buy the corect bike in the first place ? instead of chokeing it up ?
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

reggie wrote:
mattsprattuk wrote:


> stock exhaust system (keeping the doma system because the owner is a fag and wants to SM it at some point

> retard the ignition slightly

> close the powervalve


would you no do beter to buy the corect bike in the first place ? instead of chokeing it up ?


read up. I said he wants it to be a sm too
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was thinking in terms of power delivery etc
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

by doing what we're going to do with it it'll give it near enough a 4 stroke powerband with no real surge as such, and make it shit easy to start
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The modern 250/300cc bikes tend to be a lot flatter than even the 500cc+ 4 strokes, but not ridden a 380 (my old 350 was quite revvy, but no powervalve there.)
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
The modern 250/300cc bikes tend to be a lot flatter than even the 500cc+ 4 strokes, but not ridden a 380 (my old 350 was quite revvy, but no powervalve there.)


indeed, the powerband is likely to be very flat, with gobloads of bottom by design, I wouldn't bother messing with it .... only end up making it run like a pig. ....
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a completely different engine to the 300/350. And it's extremely peaky
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!! Mr. Green
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
its a completely different engine to the 300/350. And it's extremely peaky


I don't know a great deal about the 380 (G's your man there), but I doubt that is the case* ... I suspect it will just act as a big-bore 300, meaning more power all over, but the most notable being that you gain down the bottom end as ... 'There is no replacement for displacement!!' Wink






*what makes you say it is, something you read, have you ridden both - or just making assumptions!?!?! Wink
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Afraid I don't know that much - but I do believe the 380 is different engine; think it may have been before they started making the 300.
Still from a time when the 250s had a pretty linear power delivery.

However, the nature of these 2 strokes mean a few small tweaks can massively change the character.
For instance, it seems my model (03/04) KTM 200 is well known to be particularly aggressive.
However, just a gnarly exhaust and some heavier clutch plates can apparantly make a massive difference - making it a gentle and docile puppy from a bit of a snarling wolf.

Note the 350 is a totally different engine to the 300 - I suspect the 350 is the forerunner to this bike (presumably even revvier due to no powervalve), while the 300 is just a big bore modern 250.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Afraid I don't know that much - but I do believe the 380 is different engine; think it may have been before they started making the 300.
Still from a time when the 250s had a pretty linear power delivery.

However, the nature of these 2 strokes mean a few small tweaks can massively change the character.
For instance, it seems my model (03/04) KTM 200 is well known to be particularly aggressive.
However, just a gnarly exhaust and some heavier clutch plates can apparantly make a massive difference - making it a gentle and docile puppy from a bit of a snarling wolf.

Note the 350 is a totally different engine to the 300 - I suspect the 350 is the forerunner to this bike (presumably even revvier due to no powervalve), while the 300 is just a big bore modern 250.


Thinking

Do we know if it has the same bottom end as externally (and from what I can make out) it looks identical to my 2000 250 Confused
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't I'm afraid.
As I say, I expect it was probably a continuation of the older 350 line, rather than being being based on the newer 250s.
KTM talk will have actually useful knowledge rather than guesswork probably.

Unfortunately KTMs do tend to look pretty similar even with different base engine/frame models. Often the same plastics are used regardless of size and two/four stroke.

You should be able to get your KTM up to at 300 easily, don't know about more than that, however. But anyway, if you want a man's bike as I say, go for the 550 2 stroke engine Wink.
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