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The very best way to understand corners, is to go out with an experienced rider (or better still take the IAM / Rospa courses).
Every single corner is different, and so much must be taken into account, weather, other traffic position, potholes, diesel, your road position, the gear you're in, the speed you're travelling at, visiblilty, road markings, disappearing point, clarity of mind....the list is endless.
I've been riding for 30 years, and passed the IAM course last year. I now enjoy riding infinitely more now than I did before, but I'm still learning.
Someone mentioned adopting racing lines......don't do it on our roads....EVER! Save it for the track days. That's why biking fatalities are as high as they are.
Sorry if I sound like a preacher, but I work in the funeral trade and I've seen too many families torn apart (not to mention the bodies torn apart). Riding progressively with confidence, awareness and safety in mind, and you'll still enjoy the ride without any of the gut wrenching close shaves that we've all experienced!
End of sermon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ____________________ 1stGarry |
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1st Garry - I think people like me (new to biking) are grateful to have experienced riders give advice like this!  ____________________ I have an asshole tolerance level of -10
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Mr C |
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well I WAS offered one but the instructor didn't even bother to take it out of the bag, he knew what my response would be
1stGarry wrote: | Every single corner is different, and so much must be taken into account, weather, other traffic position, potholes, diesel, your road position, the gear you're in, the speed you're travelling at, visiblilty, road markings, disappearing point, clarity of mind....the list is endless. |
I think that this is exactly my point 1stGarry. Sometimes at 30mph on a busy very twisty road you miss bits of this information, any one of which could have you in the ditch (or under a lorry).
At 60mph on the same road you are working really hard to process ALL of this, if I'm working hard and talking to myself about everything I can see and everything I could be doing about it, just on a normal ride out I find my speed drops below the NSA anyway, and I am NOT a slow old git, I don't always ride like this but sometimes it really helps to force the routine into your brain
I can talk constantly about what I can see now on the open road, go out with a police rider in radio contact and you will be AMAZED at the stuff you miss
At 80/90 mph you are lucky to process anything except brake-lean-gas and NONE of the above
at least if you are trained and experienced in applying the system which helps to assess all this information then you can apply a bit more of your brain to the other bits when you are "on one" ____________________ 187.3bhp = 201mph |
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Just wanting to confirm it's still okay (won't get stopped) for using the other side of the road when safe to do so (may be different from offsiding discussion).
For example, I can take the 'pretty' way home down some twisting country lanes. I can keep straight course as the road kinks by cutting across to the other side of the road. It's good visibility so a know if there's anything coming the other way. It is cornering but not  |
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Just so you know i hated being on the wrong side of the road and still do! I was taught it but i dont use that system unless it gives me a safety advantage which is rare but once or twice it helped on smaller country roads. I only ever had one accident on a bend, and that was a bloody Volvo driver who decided the best place to u turn was on a blind bend!! I was duty bound to ride into his drivers door with my beloved ZX10 That was a left hander too! ____________________ Here comes the summer!  |
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Bit of a journey for me but it would have been a good way to meet some of you  ____________________ Here comes the summer!  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 286 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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