Any bike spotters who can tell me what have I bought?

[Gemok]

Hi All
I recently passed my CBT and have bought a bike I found on ebay
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476286063&ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/5045148688_0dd5b0deb2.jpg
the winning bidder pulled out and after having a look at the bike I bought the bike for £550 which I figured was a steal for a bike with a years MOT and only down the road from me

The trouble is I can't get a manual for it 'cause I don't know what it is, I'm not even sure which off the three settings on the choke is off

So can anyone tell me what it is a cb125t, cb125td or something random pretending to be a honda?

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

It's a Honda CB125 as it says in the listing.....
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[Paxovasa]

It is a motorbike
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[blurredman]

It's a Honda CB125T

The Haynes manual would be best, because it covers many years and sub models..
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[Nexus Icon]

Cos it's a CB125, not a CG , and is therefore a 125 twin.

Edit; except the seller claims it has only one cylinder but two exhaust ports, so actually it seems it's not a true twin. How odd.

[Paxovasa]

It is the new replacement for a CG125
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[blurredman]

My brother has a CB125 twin of 1981


It goes like bloody stink!!!
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[mad4it028]

re choke alway up is on midle is half choke down is off
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[Gemok]

I'll have have a look in the daylight but I think it does only have one cylinder so not a twin.

I recon its probably a chinese bike pretending to be a honda or a honda with a chinese engine in it.

[Gemok]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Styling wise it looks like a late UK CB125T, but UK ones were twins. Not sure that that engine is shared with. Looks like a pushrod engine (can't see any sign of an overhead cam or cam chain), but doesn't look closely related to a CG engine.

From the chassis number it seems that it is probably made in Taiwan.

All the best

Keith
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[stinkwheel]

Easy way to tell if it's a twin, count the sparkplugs. Yours has one so it's a single (yes, some bikes do have twin plugs but not a 125 learner bike).

If it's a CB125T it really SHOULD be a twin. They did a CB125 T(win) and a CB125S(ingle).

Doesn't look like a CB125T engine though. Odd.

Doesn't look like a honda either. Honda badge up loads of bits. I would expect to see Honda logos on the key, keyhole surround, dash and on a little plastic grille over the horn.

Engine casings don't look like honda ones either

Looks a bit like a Chinese engine. In fact, it looks a lot like a chinese engine. Thanks to my epic googling skills, I deduce it bears more than a passing resemblance to a Lifan model 156 FMI engine also fitted to Kinroad,and Jailun among others.
https://www.china-parts.co.uk/acatalog/New_Engines.html

On the plus side. Lifan engines are one of the better ones, A mate had one and it took a lot of abuse. Frame cracked in the end though.
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[Teflon-Mike]

Snowie turned up a few of these researching the CB125TD-C she's got, as the first Super-Dream we bought her had the Super-Dream body-work, but T-shock rear suspension like that. (Though 2cyl engine.... turned out it was a home-butchered Super-Dream, but that's another story)
Wheels & Bodywork are the same patern as the last of the line CB125TD-J Super-Dreams, & I think took tubless tyres.... which I believe are awkward to get hold of in that sizing.
But T-shock rear suspension...... which suggests either CG125, or CB100N or more likely Tiwanese Market CB125S frame.
Snowie got LOTS of hits for Tiwanese CB125 owners blogs, either the CG styled single, but with OHC engine, or, like that one, Super-Dream bodywork over T-Shock frame with splay-port motor.
I think we came accross a couple in the UK on e-bay & pre-loved.
Suggestion is that its a Tiwanese 'Bitsa' grey-imported to the UK.
Aparently there were a few batches of Far-Eastern market Honda's found there way into britain by the back ddoor around 2002/2003, Honda weren't very happy about. Possibly one of them.
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[FURBAR]

Three spoke alloys wheels en it ...
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[MaybeGuy]

dont buy it. it's a rebadged chinese piece of shit by the looks of it.
the honda would have spoked wheels, a honda engine etc etc.

no wonder the other guy pulled out.

dont buy it

dont buy it

edit: looks like the engine from a jialing vixen (guy at work has one).
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[Ed Case]

Definitely NOT a Honda engine, it's a Chinese bike masquerading as a Honda. I'm pretty sure that the 'Big H' hasn't marketed a twin port single since the 250RS's of the early eighties. Any 'giveaway' stickers under the seat or any other 'out-of-the-way' places, does it say 'Honda' on the ignition key ?. Ask your local 'Friendly' Honda dealers opinion, he'll know for certain. Get back to us on this, we all want to know !.

[Glenben92]

No question in my eyes it's chinese. My Huoniao HN125 has the EXACT same single pot twin exhaust engine. It's exactly the same, to the last detail (but with Huoniao written on it).

Oh, and does the V5 not mean anything these days!?
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[Glenben92]

Oh and the engine itself is a copy of a CG design. just with the twin ports. Don't think that justifies a Honda badge though
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[tahrey]

one a' them there wierd "twingle" things?

[stinkwheel]

[Ed Case]

Found anything out about the bike yet Gemok ?.

[Ed Case]

[Gemok]

Sorry for the slow response I've been over most of the bike looking for logos and the like, can't find anything thats not either
A) an easy to apply honda logo sticker or engine cover
or
B) a generic chinese brand

So I've no idea if its a cobbled together frankenstein of a bike or a rebadged chinese bike. The best contender I've found is the kinroad xt125-d its hard to tell from such a small picture but I'd say it looks very similar to my bike just different colours

The bike does what I need it to for now since my route to work is all 30 or 40 limits until I get some cash together for the full license and the more time I spend on bikes the easier the test should be right?

[stinkwheel]

[Tsopo]

Maybe I'm being stupid here, but why not demand a refund, considering it's not what the ebay ad said it was?

Ok so it works and it does what you need of it, fair enough, but it's still a fake bike being sold as a genuine Honda.