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skikman
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: idles higher when warm Reply with quote

hi.my lifan 125 custom idles higher after running for a few miles.it ticks over fine after a bit of choke first thing but if i go say to the next town [8 mile away] it will be ticking over faster.what do you think is up?
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 50cc dose this also i have no idea why, mine never used to
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be a number of things such as air leak on the intake or incorrect mixture. what sort of rpm difference are we talking about? What 125 is it?
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamfatbloke wrote:
could be a number of things such as air leak on the intake or incorrect mixture. what sort of rpm difference are we talking about? What 125 is it?
its the one in the pic.lifan 125 custom[copy of honda cm 125] not a big lot of revs but enough that you have to turn it down at carb.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds normal to me. You should set the tickover speed when the engine is properly warmed up anyway, the next town sounds ideal.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its because its warm...

I assume its not fuel injected, my old ybr used to idle real low when it was hot (e.g. after long ride in summer etc) because it could handle it, yet in the cold it would idle higher because it needed to else it would cut out.

If its carbed then it would just idle at what you've set it at. Set it when warm in the summer, but in winter id set it just a tad higher to help for the cold mornings etc.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya, I've got a Baimo Renegade with the same engine as yours. Its a Chinese variant of the CG125 (FM156 I think is the official name) Although I've messed about with it considerably, including upgrading to 150cc, it idles at about 1200rpm. It needs full choke to start and to idle for about the first 2/3 miles, after which it will idle but a little too slowly, perhaps 1000 rpm. This time of year it does need about 6/8 miles to really warm up and idle smoothly.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly an airleak caused by either dog$hit gaskets, or incorrectly torqued cylinder bolts.....
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartadair wrote:
Hiya, I've got a Baimo Renegade with the same engine as yours. Its a Chinese variant of the CG125 (FM156 I think is the official name) Although I've messed about with it considerably, including upgrading to 150cc, it idles at about 1200rpm. It needs full choke to start and to idle for about the first 2/3 miles, after which it will idle but a little too slowly, perhaps 1000 rpm. This time of year it does need about 6/8 miles to really warm up and idle smoothly.
not quite the same.mine is a 244fmi twin cylinder so twice as hard to set up.i was thinking carbs because it dosent idle smooth[up and down]but i dont want to mess with the mixture screw as you have to drill a hole to get at it
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi i find small bikes often have some degree of fluctuation of idle speed like this....try not to worry about it its just part of the character of your bike. Sure you could get all frustrated and spend hours trying to sort it but whats the point? Just adjust it when you need to. If a 125 gets you from A to B its doing pretty much all that should be required of it!
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's COMPLETELY normal :S thats like saying "after i let go of my clutch in gear, the bike moves forward, whats wrong?"
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's normal on carbed bikes IME.

Set the idle speed when it's warm to 1.2-1.5k RPM (or whatever is appropriate). Then use your choke to fire it up and keep it revving before it warms up.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex A wrote:
It's normal on carbed bikes IME.

Set the idle speed when it's warm to 1.2-1.5k RPM (or whatever is appropriate). Then use your choke to fire it up and keep it revving before it warms up.
ok thanks everyone
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 06 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenben92 wrote:
..after i let go of my clutch in gear, the bike moves forward, whats wrong?"

Sounds like you've got what's called a 'geared' bike. To stop this you need to remove the clutch, then the gearbox, and just to be sure, the engine. You should find that the problem with moving forward disappears completely. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 21:56 - 06 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh it's geared is it!? shit that sounds like its broken. Might just throw it away then, can't be doing with any of this "moving" business, it's just a hassle really Wink

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PostPosted: 03:22 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: High idle speed when warm Reply with quote

I have a bandit 600 1999 that idles high when hot, it's definitely not normal, 3000 ish when hot, 1200 when cold, checked carbs and airbox to some extent but not professional, went round checked all bolts, seem ok... Any ideas?
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