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Stowelly
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Could anyone recomend a cheap chain breaking / joing tool? Reply with quote

Ive been looking on ebay and found a few for about 35-40 quid such as this one:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300466324758&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

but have also read storys of people breaking the tool before getting the chain apart, and having problems joining the chain, so would like to be able to minimise this difficulty if possible!! its for a gsxr 600 DID chain.

edit: a lot of them say you need to grind the head off the rivet with an angle grinder first, is this really necessary? cant afford a angle grinder as well as the tool and the chain kit!

thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way to split a chain is purchase a cheap grinder and a set of centre punches.

I don't rivet links myself, so can't comment on that side of things.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Could anyone recomend a cheap chain breaking / joing too Reply with quote

As above; £15 or less for an angle grinder will break the chain fine.
I generally don't grind the head off when using my whale tool (often re-rivet them), but suspect you would have to anyway for cheaper tools.

You'll need to check if it's a hollow or solid rivet.
Pretty much any cheap tool should do the trick for hollow rivets, you'll need a whale tool for solid ones - so if you're short of cash, press the plates on and ride the bike (gently) to your local friendly garage Smile.
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PostPosted: 07:08 - 16 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://bikespeeduk.com/epages/steer2916.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/steer2916/Products/CHAINTOOL

I have that one^^^

A thread I've posted in about it recently

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=205127&highlight=chain


And how if you buy a DID chain you 'may' need to slightly modify the tool to fit it perfectly.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=199399&highlight=press+plate+modify

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PostPosted: 07:50 - 16 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not familiar with O ring chains that much, but can you get them supplied endless? If so, I would do that and take the swingarm out to grease the bearings while I'm doing a chain change. Saves buying an expensive tool, or worrying that you didn't peen the links over properly.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 16 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:


ah cheers for that info, also the link tot the site, as it works out alot cheaper than id previously found, so should be able to get a cheap grinder as well!
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 16 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stowelly wrote:

ah cheers for that info, also the link tot the site, as it works out alot cheaper than id previously found, so should be able to get a cheap grinder as well!


If the grinder is just to file the pins down on the old chain so you can take it off then assuming you don't wish to reuse it just use something like a hacksaw to cut it in half.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 16 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, although cutting through the whole chain with a hacksaw seems like it could be an incredible amount of effort!
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 16 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a £3 file like I use. Takes a bit longer though.

I file my old chain off, fit the new one with a split link then ride to my local garage and let them join the chain with the link that came with the chain.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are split links safe to use on anything over 125cc?
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarlosCBR wrote:
Are split links safe to use on anything over 125cc?

Yes.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarlosCBR wrote:
Are split links safe to use on anything over 125cc?


Yes, will never be as good as a properly rivetted link though. I'd be tempted to lockwire them on to stop them flinging off if I did have a split link.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You buy a cheap rivetter, you buy twice.

I bought a £12.50 eBay MX jobby. It did about 3 chains then snapped.
Now I have a £50 jobby from a local bike shop that seems a lot sturdier.

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PostPosted: 13:35 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
You buy a cheap rivetter, you buy twice.

I bought a £12.50 eBay MX jobby. It did about 3 chains then snapped.
Now I have a £50 jobby from a local bike shop that seems a lot sturdier.

Gaz


Is your £50 very similar to the £22 one in the link I posted? Most of the ones in bike shops are the same thing but priced higher.

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/images/product/product/bik_hd-chain-tool.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, mine's this one:

https://www.worldofpower.co.uk//Gallery/product/chain_tool_01Popup.jpg

It's a Motrax one, but it's nicely made tbh, although that one you've posted does look good.

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PostPosted: 13:40 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this was the cheapy one I bought and broke.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Challenge-Chain-Breaker-3-4-1-1-4-/370418682364?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item563eac89fc#ht_1116wt_754

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PostPosted: 13:44 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:


I had one almost identical to that, it pressed out 7 520 pitch rivets (without grinding the ends off) without fault, before I accidentally left it in the sidecar for a couple of months and it went rusty.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Motrax one and it broke on the third chain. I now have this one and it's going strong three chain later, fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 17 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grinder to remove chain and two hammers and a centre punch to fit the rivet link Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to remove an endless 110 530 pitch chain.

I don't have access to an angle grinder as there is no power socket at my bike's location.

Has anyone ever hacksawed through their chain?

Wondering how long that would take
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a while as it's tough metal. Don't know if it'd work, but I'd be tempted to try bolt croppers.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've hacksawed through a few. It doesn't take long.

Just pick a thin part, where there's only two plates. It'll go straight through them.

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PostPosted: 11:03 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
I need to remove an endless 110 530 pitch chain.

I don't have access to an angle grinder as there is no power socket at my bike's location.

Has anyone ever hacksawed through their chain?

Wondering how long that would take


Probably about as long as it took you to turn on your PC and post that question Wink . They aren't hardened or anything as far as I can tell, they cut ok with a decent blade; you could probably bolt cropper it if you really wanted.

EDIT: G beat me to the bolt cropper suggestion.


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