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mrtEE
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Paying kwik fit type places for oil and filter change Reply with quote

Its fairly cheap to get a kwik fit type place to do an oil and filter change on my Xsara VTS, but how likely is that they will actually do it?

Its about £25 with national tyres and autocare which is probably cheaper than buying the oil and filter and doing it myself.

Just worried that they will fail to do the work or knacker it up somehow as most of these places have a bad rep?
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is cheaper than buying the oil and filter yourself in a lot of cases unfortunately.

For example Honda will do an oil and filter change with castrol for less than I can buy the castrol oil for on its own.

Should be pretty obvious if they have done it, the oil will be transparent on the dipstick straight after a change.

Whether or not they use the oil they say they will is what would worry me.

If you don't buy branded oil, there is no way a garage can beat the cost of doing it yourself.

They may just wipe the filter casing clean rather than change it. Most numpties wouldn't know what an oil filter looks like anyway. If the filter is internal, as it is on quite a few modern cars now, like the Mondeo, then they can get away without changing it quite easily.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I could ask to watch them do the change, that way I could check they are using decent oil? and etch something into the oil filter.

I tihnk the oil filter is accessible via the engine bay on the VTS so I should be able to check that easily.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely you'll want the sense of achievement and piece of mind doing it yourself?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian789 wrote:
Surely you'll want the sense of achievement and piece of mind doing it yourself?

Hardly a fucking achievement, for the sake of getting dirty and 25 minutes you might as well part with £25. Like Goose said it's often cheaper than buying the oil yourself.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best idea is to book an appointment and say that you'll be waiting while they do it, only a 15 minute job and you can watch.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Never Was wrote:
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Surely you'll want the sense of achievement and piece of mind doing it yourself?

Hardly a fucking achievement, for the sake of getting dirty and 25 minutes you might as well part with £25. Like Goose said it's often cheaper than buying the oil yourself.


Calm down mate, it's just I don't trust places like this.

If you do go be ready for them to tell you your tyres are bald and your brakes are fooked.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian789 wrote:


If you do go be ready for them to tell you your tyres are bald and your brakes are fooked.


Your probably right but tyres and pads can clearly be seen as in good nick so doesnt bother me!
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get it done, look at the oil filter after, assess your next move accordingly.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you genuinely don't trust these type of places (as I don't). Then why not do it yourself?

Oil filter should be a couple of quid max using google, and can probably find a suitable decent quality 5L of oil for £10.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

wikinsons sell about 5L 10W/40 for a tenner
or if you have a costco card they do castrol oil dual 4/5L packs for about £22
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never let anyone change my oil.
No one except myself drives, let alone works on my car! I don't even like letting the MOT tester take it round the block for the brake test. Sad
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrod wrote:
I don't even like letting the MOT tester take it round the block for the brake test. Sad

???

Never had a tester take my car on a drive - thought they had to use a brake test roller.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd definitely check that they actually do the job.
I had my tracking supposedly adjusted at one of the big tyre and exhaust places and they hadn't even touched it.

My friend works for a service center type place but it wasn't open on Sunday so I took it to Kwik-shaft as it was the only day I was free.

My friend said that I could bring it to him for the re-check if I wanted as it was closer.
The adjusters were seized solid, it took us about half an hour with a blow touch, wd40 and a hammer to free them off. Quick shaft had completely scammed me (well rather the spotty kid who worked there had).
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrod wrote:
I don't even like letting the MOT tester take it round the block for the brake test. Sad


He does what now? Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrod wrote:
No one except myself drives, let alone works on my car! I don't even like letting the MOT tester take it round the block for the brake test.


Laughing

Find a new MOT tester.

A real one would be an idea.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/waveguide/KwikFit_Fitters.jpg
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:
Jrod wrote:
No one except myself drives, let alone works on my car! I don't even like letting the MOT tester take it round the block for the brake test.


Laughing

Find a new MOT tester.

A real one would be an idea.


It has to be tested with a tapley meter as its fitted with a plate diff.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the trained monkeys at kwikfit changed a set of pads on my dads car once

they put the caliper back together with some sort of air tool and managed to round off the hex patten in all the allen key bolts in every caliper
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
the trained monkeys at kwikfit changed a set of pads on my dads car once

they put the caliper back together with some sort of air tool and managed to round off the hex patten in all the allen key bolts in every caliper


Out in the van a year or so ago, a car passed us and we saw the rear wheel wobbling. We followed and eventually managed to stop it.
Young lady driving, she had her brakes done at Kwik Fit the previous day. Every wheel was loose, alloys too.
The left rear just had one wheel nut left on, right front had two nuts, the others had three.
All the alloys were knackered.


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PostPosted: 10:25 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian789 wrote:
Calm down mate, it's just I don't trust places like this.

If you do go be ready for them to tell you your tyres are bald and your brakes are fooked.


So? They're not going to hold you car to ransom and refuse to let you leave until you pay them to fix it all. If you've got so much sense then you just get them to do the oil change and leave.

I use Kwik Fit/Tyre sales for oil changes because they use Mobil 1 semi and fit a filter for £25, I can't buy the stuff for that, my BMW uses 6litres of oil too. It's easy to watch them do it, it's hardly an engine rebuild, bolt out, filter off, filter on, bolt on.

Incidentally last one I did they did tell me my tyres were all bald...they were right too Wink
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlimRick wrote:

Never had a tester take my car on a drive - thought they had to use a brake test roller.


Not if you have permanent 4wd. If you do then the roller brake test will damage the central diff. They should use a Tapley meter and take it for a test drive to do a brake test.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:56 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
SlimRick wrote:

Never had a tester take my car on a drive - thought they had to use a brake test roller.


Not if you have permanent 4wd. If you do then the roller brake test will damage the central diff. They should use a Tapley meter and take it for a test drive to do a brake test.

All the best

Keith


Same applys for any car fitted with a LSD although, unless you tell them it will probably be done on the rollers.
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