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PostPosted: 22:04 - 19 Sep 2010    Post subject: Speed wobbles on a maxim - Sorted Reply with quote

Ive just got a 1982 yam maxim that is starting speed wobbles on curves at speed, any maxim owners out there had similar, gonna have to check forks, swingarm tracking, tyre pressures, tyre condition, any more proper ideas would be appreciated
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 19 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not 100% sure it is the same bike but I had a XJ750 that used to wobble in a straight line at 120ish. I stuck a home made brace on the front, removed the headlight fairing and had the wheels balanced. Not sure which was the saviour but it fixed it.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 19 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
Not 100% sure it is the same bike but I had a XJ750 that used to wobble in a straight line at 120ish. I stuck a home made brace on the front, removed the headlight fairing and had the wheels balanced. Not sure which was the saviour but it fixed it.



I will get the wheels balanced and see how that goes and slow down at bends for now Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 19 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get this on my xj600 at around 100mph when taking bends.

Just kinda ride through it.
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

my hornet did this at 90 ish when i had a 16" rim with SHITE tyre. now with a 17" and a decent rubber its fine. i think its down to rubber / balancing and forks twisting
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welshd1k wrote:
my hornet did this at 90 ish when i had a 16" rim with SHITE tyre. now with a 17" and a decent rubber its fine. i think its down to rubber / balancing and forks twisting



I do suspect the forks to be honest, get them off give them a roll and do the seals again I think, also look at the rear sus, cheers
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The head bearings that come on it weren't that good to start with, and they are no better after 28 years. If you're really bothered about it it might be worth changing them for a tapered set. However mine is still passing MOTs with 44k on the clock.

Also if your tyre pressures are incorrect or if your tyres are excessively worn, this can cause a bit of a wobble. At one stage I tried some cheap Cheng Shin tyres and the bike handled awfully toward the end of their life. As soon as I changed them it was like riding a new bike.

Also you could check that the front wheel is in balance. This could make a little bit of difference. You could check the back one while you're at it but I find this doesn't affect the handling, just makes for slightly uneven tyre wear.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not like tank slappers Ive had in the past, it feels like the arse end starts waggling, weard and scary but I stay with it easing off slightly and slowly, I know its the front but it feels like the rear, I'll sort it because its not the kind of thing you leave is it Smile Thumbs Up I reckon tracking or previous front end damage, ride safe guys
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorted, today I noticed scuffing on the rear tyre wall, the tyre is a very tight fit but today it was raining as usual so the bike wasnt pushed but yep scuffs appeared so yep its rear wheel bearings, ordered and will be sorted when they arrive, brilliant Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

evoboy wrote:
I get this on my xj600 at around 100mph when taking bends.

Just kinda ride through it.



Well if you ride through this you'd be in big shit bucking bronco style, I found the culprit..........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZfzbI7X-1A Thumbs Up Smile
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the wheel bearings are shot, the sprocket carrier bearing wont be far behind them. Remember to replace that too.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is a blatant plug but I don't have anything to do with them other than having brought parts off them.

https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/

Have been very good for most of the bearings I've needed. Not always the cheapest but good quality and usually next day delivery. A complete set of bearing and seals for the CG cost around £15. Absolute bargain.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If the wheel bearings are shot, the sprocket carrier bearing wont be far behind them. Remember to replace that too.



feels ok but I will watch for it, the saving grace is the left bearing next to the sprocket aint to bad at all.
I think swing arm bushes will be next in line for replacement though the movement up to now is less than a mil Smile
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the wheel/frame alignment.

But as discussed soggy suspension could be the culprit.

I would plump for dampening not sufficient or out of balance.

A bouncy front or rear could be upsetting the other suspension unit.

Maybe a characterisic of the beast which you need to tame.

Try riding through it.... Embarassed

However many times a speed wobble happens one's chocolate starfish reacts with the same ferocity. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Check the wheel/frame alignment.

But as discussed soggy suspension could be the culprit.

I would plump for dampening not sufficient or out of balance.

A bouncy front or rear could be upsetting the other suspension unit.

Maybe a characterisic of the beast which you need to tame.

Try riding through it.... Embarassed

However many times a speed wobble happens one's chocolate starfish reacts with the same ferocity. Laughing





Its sorted now, no wobble when the bikes over on fast bends but Im gonna do the swing arm bushes just because I want to, Thumbs Up cheers Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

2wheelsteve wrote:
feels ok but I will watch for it, the saving grace is the left bearing next to the sprocket aint to bad at all.
I think swing arm bushes will be next in line for replacement though the movement up to now is less than a mil Smile


If your swingarm is like mine (which I suspect it might not be with the 550 being chain driven) there is an adjuster under the right hand swingarm pivot cover bit that you can screw out to take up the free play with a locknut over the top of it.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No unfortunetly it doesnt have that feature but like I say its miniscule movement that isnt affecting control at all, Ive got loads to do on it anyway but its all good fun, its called bonding with your bike Very Happy Thumbs Up
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