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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Bloomin dishwashers Reply with quote

Hi

Just to get this off my chest.

Our dish washer died about a year ago.. Pump failed and I couldn't decide whether to get a new pump or a new dishwasher. Being a cheapo dishwasher a pump was close to half the price of a new dishwasher (OK, the pump should be a better quality one). Being chronically indecisive we did nothing.

Finally got a new dishwasher yesterday and had fun fitting it.

Who in their right mind sells a consumer item likely to be installed by normal people and uses torx fittings all over the place. Suspect 95% of households don't have any torx drivers of any kind.

And while having multilingual instructions might help the maker, having lousy pictorial instructions with pretty much no text is a pain.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

should have just bought a new one then Razz
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Bloomin dishwashers Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Who in their right mind sells a consumer item likely to be installed by normal people and uses torx fittings all over the place. Suspect 95% of households don't have any torx drivers of any kind.


It is not designed for consumers to refit replacement parts tho. I suspect that 95% of households would not fit the pump themselves.

The use of the torx fittings are clearly designed to push you toward having an engineer fit it - or even more dasterdly, realise that you NEED an engineer to fit it, then realise that would be stupidly expensive so you t hen just buy a new one.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Bloomin dishwashers Reply with quote

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It is not designed for consumers to refit replacement parts tho. I suspect that 95% of households would not fit the pump themselves.

The use of the torx fittings are clearly designed to push you toward having an engineer fit it - or even more dasterdly, realise that you NEED an engineer to fit it, then realise that would be stupidly expensive so you t hen just buy a new one.


I'm sure that's why they do it, but would prefer to waffle about safety issues because they think you might be in there tinkering with it still turned on.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Embarassed . Didn't put that well. Edited the original post.

We did buy a new dishwasher. It is the new one that is covered in torx fittings, plenty of which you need to remove or do up when putting it in place.

For example it is designed to have a front panel attached to match the rest of the kitchen. Fitting that means 4 torx screws at the bottom, 2 each for a pair of clips on the panel. Then once the panel is clipped on you need to remove 4 torx screws from the front door and replace them with longer torx screws that go through into the front panel.

Appears to be no reason why they couldn't just use Philips headed screws.

It would be FAR easier to fit a new pump to the old washer which didn't rely on torx screws.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torx are better for mass production.

Being a fitted kitchen I guess they assume that either:
A). You know what your doing and will use the correct tools.
B). You will get someone else to fit it.
C). Not have a clue but are too cheap to pay so you end up breaking it resulting in more sales.

I never understand why they don't fit wheels with brakes or jacks to the bottom of large appliances or why you can't adjust the leveling feet from the front.

have you noticed that they also sharpen the edge of all exposed metal parts to remove the fingers of those that believe that they can do their own repairs?
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

You can adjust the leveling feet from the front. Pity that they do not lift the dish washer up high enough even on full extension.

Torx to me are a pain. Way too wobbly, so unlike a Philips or Allen key you can virtually no chance of putting the screw on the driver and then putting it into position.

Not sure that a piece of normal consumer white goods of a supposedly standard size should be regarded as something to be professionally installed.

The instructions really are dire. I would expect better from something that started "flat packed for your convenience".

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob yarrr wrote:
haha think our new washing machine had a torx screw on the back and my mum didn't have a clue what the hell it was


Did you get in to trouble for bringing a greasy torx driver set in from the garage into the house Laughing .

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PostPosted: 12:07 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Its fitted and working. Just took far longer the it should have done for what is a really a minor job.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:28 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Bloomin dishwashers Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
...Who in their right mind sells a consumer item likely to be installed by normal people and uses torx fittings all over the place....

Count yourself lucky.
They could have used the security torx fittings (the ones with the blob in the centre).

At least you have a story to tell the grandchildren Thumbs Up

BTW what's the make and model, just so that I can be aware as I feel we need a replacement. Ta.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 22 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The anti tamper ones would have been no worse for me.

It is a Bosch unit but not a clue what the model number is. Doesn't say anywhere on it or on the instructions.

All the best

Keith
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