Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


125 Touring and tuning

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page 1, 2  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Wave2k
G's Stalker



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:22 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: 125 Touring and tuning Reply with quote

OK, so ive done a good few tours, usually on 600cc or 1000cc sports bikes.

We realised that, most of the fun things from touring, have little to do with speed, and its mostly to do with having a laugh.

So the 2011 has been set and there are Rules

Its gotta be a 125 or under.

Cost under 400

So i also think this would be a good opportunity to learn and do a little engine fettling with little cost.

What kinda tuning can you do to a CG125 ? or other 125s, like polishing and porting perhaps ?

Or should i just go 2-stroke and get something like a Yamaga RXS ?

If if blows up, ill just throw the bike away and go pillion.

I hopefully wannna raise the pegs too, so i can kneedown, for extra laughs.
____________________
Ducati 1299 Panigale
2009 Corvette C6 z51
RS125->CBR400->RXS100->GSXR750K2->Ducati749S->CBR600RR5->TL1000R->DRz400->RSVR1000->Honda VTR SP1->CBR400->GSXR1000K6->Honda H100->CBR600RR3->Ducati1299
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Carvel
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:35 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: 125 Touring and tuning Reply with quote

Wave wrote:
Or should i just go 2-stroke and get something like a Yamaha RXS ?

Yes you should. cg125's suck balls
____________________
2002 Aprilia RSV1000R, Cbr600Fs, Mk1 B12, Vfr400 NC30...

Matt B: I can deal with crushed nuts to beat Ollie.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

chris-red
Have you considered a TDM?



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:45 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do this I may sell you my RXS if you want it, I swore I would never sell it but I haven't touched it in 4 years. It is in pretty good condition. 38000 miles. No tax or MOT, for MOT it will need new headstock bearings and maybe a rear tyre. I have a few spares, a full gasket set and rear break shoes. It will need abit of work to get it running, but nothing that will cost I don't think. Just the carb cleaning and the petrol tank and the 2stroke tank maybe. It had a new air filter and new gear box oil not long before I layed it up.

When I layed it up (when I bought the triumph) it ran perfectly and would hit 70mph with my lardy arse on it.
____________________
Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

chris-red
Have you considered a TDM?



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:45 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't though it away though Laughing
____________________
Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

UnspeedySam
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:13 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
If you do this I may sell you my RXS if you want it, I swore I would never sell it but I haven't touched it in 4 years.

Would definitely recommend the RXS over an old CG. However for touring, maybe something with a bit more grunt like a CB250 would better. The moment I hit a straight road on the RXS things get irritating, as 70mph is as fast as you can go with your head on the tank, on a LONG stretch.

Looks good with luggage though Razz
https://s2.kimag.es/thumbs/3153664.jpg
____________________
Riding: BMW R1150RT `02 bought mildly crashed
Fixing: Also the BMW as I get less broken bits
Gone: ZZR600 '00, TRX850 '97, RXS100 '93, JS125-6B '07, BMW R1100RS '93, Kawasaki ZX-6R-J2 '01, Honda Bros NT400 NC25 '88
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Wave2k
G's Stalker



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:33 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
something with a bit more grunt like a CB250 would better.
https://s2.kimag.es/thumbs/3153664.jpg


Rules say 125cc Wink

An RXS100, on a straight road for hours and hours and hours at high revs, wont that screw a 2-smoke ?

I did that on my rs125 years ago, it was never the same again.

Not that i care, but i do kinda wanna get home, throwing the bike in a river is a proper last resort.
____________________
Ducati 1299 Panigale
2009 Corvette C6 z51
RS125->CBR400->RXS100->GSXR750K2->Ducati749S->CBR600RR5->TL1000R->DRz400->RSVR1000->Honda VTR SP1->CBR400->GSXR1000K6->Honda H100->CBR600RR3->Ducati1299
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Carvel
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:40 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave wrote:
An RXS100, on a straight road for hours and hours and hours at high revs, wont that screw a 2-smoke ?

Nah, it's an rxs it'll be fine.
____________________
2002 Aprilia RSV1000R, Cbr600Fs, Mk1 B12, Vfr400 NC30...

Matt B: I can deal with crushed nuts to beat Ollie.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

kingsknight
World Chat Champion



Joined: 21 Jun 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:42 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for an XR125, toured on mine and loved every moment!

https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs332.snc3/29208_396267438621_500588621_4010318_1325130_n.jpg

that was from my last tour.

Iv brought some panniers for it which will make loading and unloading a lot faster and easier.
____________________
TS50 (sold) NS125F (sold) NSR125R-K (write off after 2 crashes) CG125 (nicked) XR125L-3 (Sold )-: ) DR125SM '11 (sold yay) XL125V '12 (In love with this bike) XT600E '04 (fun on the dirt)
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

kingsknight
World Chat Champion



Joined: 21 Jun 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:44 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
throwing the bike in a river is a proper last resort.


LOL Thumbs Up
____________________
TS50 (sold) NS125F (sold) NSR125R-K (write off after 2 crashes) CG125 (nicked) XR125L-3 (Sold )-: ) DR125SM '11 (sold yay) XL125V '12 (In love with this bike) XT600E '04 (fun on the dirt)
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts
N cee thirty This post is not being displayed because the poster is banned. Unhide this post / all posts.

kingsknight
World Chat Champion



Joined: 21 Jun 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:36 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
not rode a rxs yet,but the cg is hella boring and vibrates like hell at 65


My CG was the same but my XR is fine at 65/70 when it gets there!
____________________
TS50 (sold) NS125F (sold) NSR125R-K (write off after 2 crashes) CG125 (nicked) XR125L-3 (Sold )-: ) DR125SM '11 (sold yay) XL125V '12 (In love with this bike) XT600E '04 (fun on the dirt)
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

UnspeedySam
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:41 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingsknight wrote:
Quote:
not rode a rxs yet,but the cg is hella boring and vibrates like hell at 65


My CG was the same but my XR is fine at 65/70 when it gets there!

The RXS is also fine at top speed. However by the time you get to 70 you're above the 9k redline at about 9300rpm, which I don't like doing for any length of time...
____________________
Riding: BMW R1150RT `02 bought mildly crashed
Fixing: Also the BMW as I get less broken bits
Gone: ZZR600 '00, TRX850 '97, RXS100 '93, JS125-6B '07, BMW R1100RS '93, Kawasaki ZX-6R-J2 '01, Honda Bros NT400 NC25 '88
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

chris-red
Have you considered a TDM?



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:48 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave wrote:
beechbone wrote:
something with a bit more grunt like a CB250 would better.
https://s2.kimag.es/thumbs/3153664.jpg


Rules say 125cc Wink

An RXS100, on a straight road for hours and hours and hours at high revs, wont that screw a 2-smoke ?

I did that on my rs125 years ago, it was never the same again.

Not that i care, but i do kinda wanna get home, throwing the bike in a river is a proper last resort.


Push bike panniers work great on it too.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/chris-red/photo001.jpg

I used to do Portsmouth to East London in it which involved long periods on the A3 it has never missed a beat mechanically the only things I had done to it where indicator lense and brake lever after it was pushed over new battery gearbox oil change and new airfilter. When the headstock bearings needed doing was about the same time I got the Speed Four so it was left.

If I was going on this trip I would do a top end rebuild I don't know when it was done last but no noises and it still can hit the red line in top gear. Beside it already has a gasket set and a top end kit is under £20 on ebay.

I would change the headstock bearings - £30

Change the brake shoes - They probably don't need it but I have a set.

Change the rear possibly both tyres.
____________________
Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

tatters
Exxon Valdez



Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:52 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wont be able to pick a XR125 up for under £400, for touring l would get a CG125, YBR125 with the CB125t being my first choice if l can get a good one as there the most powerful of the coummter 125,s before the learner BHP limt was brough in.



Where were you thinking of touring to?
____________________
Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Wave2k
G's Stalker



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:38 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea of Location yet, but somewhere different

Perhaps somewhere like Croatia

Trouble with the CG, is its almost too reliable, which would kinda take some of the fun and adventure away.

I think having a 2-stroke would be more of an adventure

Id be alot more relaxed then when i have a 6k bike between my legs.
____________________
Ducati 1299 Panigale
2009 Corvette C6 z51
RS125->CBR400->RXS100->GSXR750K2->Ducati749S->CBR600RR5->TL1000R->DRz400->RSVR1000->Honda VTR SP1->CBR400->GSXR1000K6->Honda H100->CBR600RR3->Ducati1299
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts
N cee thirty This post is not being displayed because the poster is banned. Unhide this post / all posts.

tatters
Exxon Valdez



Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:47 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave wrote:
No idea of Location yet, but somewhere different.



Morocco would be fun on a 125 cant get anymore different then there for a 2 week tour.
____________________
Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Swim41
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 25 Jul 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:01 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went on short camping trip on a YBR125 recently, just an over nighter, but the round trip was a respectable 280 miles. For luggage I used an old pair of Oxford '1st time' throwovers, a roll bag and and Aldi/Lidl tankbag. I usually do this sort of thing on a 600 with with luxury of hard panniers and topbox, but handling-wise the YBR took the weight well, still shifted pretty quickly (on the flat) and held 55mph without apparant strain.

If I had been camping for more than one night would have needed to take a bit more stuff but I don't think it would have been an issue. Enjoyed it so much I might do a couple of rallies/weekends on it next year.
____________________
Yamaha XJ600N
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

monty's double
Borekit Bruiser



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:39 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

get a chinese 125 - your desire for some mechanical work on the way is then bound to be satisfied. Mr. Green

actually that might not be a bad thing - might help on the perennial "are chinese bikes any good" subject...
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:45 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: 125 Touring and tuning Reply with quote

Got a lovely c90 that would be on-budget Razz... but I think I'd try for an old CB125T, or a 2 stroke like an NS125 or similar.

I've got the embryo of a plan to arrange a tour involving buying a brand new 'Hero Honda' or similar bike in India and riding it back to the UK.
Top of the range 230cc or something bike comes in just over £1k (lower down a lot cheaper) I think and most of them get pretty good fuel economy, often based on standard engines and are a fair bit better than the Chinese unofficial copies I believe.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

ms51ves3
Super Spammer



Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:32 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get an RXS, get something with 12v electrics.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

pepperami
Super Spammer



Joined: 17 Jan 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:49 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave wrote:
No idea of Location yet, but somewhere different.


I was looking at one of my bike mags yesterday, and a geezer in one article, rode to Eygpt and back on a BSA Bantam.

She`s been tidying up, so I`ve lost the article at the moment, so I cant post any details Sad sorry.

The point is that a little bike went all that way with no major issues Thumbs Up


Me, I`m to much of a pussy to go that far Smile
____________________
I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

radical
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 02 Jul 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:53 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A MuZ RT125 would be a good bike for the job if you can find one, they fetch really stupid cheap money but are light years ahead of a cg125, worth a look if you can find one.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

chris-red
Have you considered a TDM?



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:08 - 29 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Don't get an RXS, get something with 12v electrics.


This is a good point, especially if you plant to ride at night.
____________________
Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

UnspeedySam
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:51 - 29 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
Don't get an RXS, get something with 12v electrics.


This is a good point, especially if you plant to ride at night.

Bah! Just got back from a midnight ride down some unlit country lanes, the lights on the RXS are perfectly adequate...

My RXS has done 32k as of earlier today, and is mechanically sound as far as I can tell Razz However how do you tell when the headstock bearings need doing? I think my top end (and rest of the engine) is fine, as it'll redline in top gear. The engine has always sounded a bit rattly...but I guess that's just 2 strokes...I wish I had something to compare to...
____________________
Riding: BMW R1150RT `02 bought mildly crashed
Fixing: Also the BMW as I get less broken bits
Gone: ZZR600 '00, TRX850 '97, RXS100 '93, JS125-6B '07, BMW R1100RS '93, Kawasaki ZX-6R-J2 '01, Honda Bros NT400 NC25 '88
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 15 years, 337 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.10 Sec - Server Load: 0.79 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 135.42 Kb