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PostPosted: 12:02 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Vista Service Pack 2 Reply with quote

If I install this, am I gonna fuck up my computer?

I have a one of them 4(2) disk/memory thingys. The man in the shop did explain it in a way I could understand when I bought it (about 18 months ago).

Anyway.
I've never had a virus checker properly installed on it, been thinking for ages "Must do that", and there was a Macafee thing which occasionally popped up saying "Ugh, you've got crap in your system, sort it out" - and I think a Norton/Symantec one as well, but I never properly installed and ran them regularly.

So yesterday I thought "No, really, do it." and I installed the free AVG thing (which I have had before and which was great).

And its cleaned a bunch of junk up, a few little greeblies which had got in, and I also ran the free one-time PC cleanup they offer too (which I am thinking of buying)

So now its crashing one of my programs in Facebook, which I think has something to do with Flash, wh ich it must have "cleaned up". Its no biggie, its only a FB game which I really don't need the addiction to,and I can probably update my Flash without too much problems, as I usually run Firefox which work well for my purposes.

And Firefox upgrades seem fairly seamless ... very little goes wrong, I don't have a great need for a super duper system.

But its suggested that I install this Windows Service Pack 2.
If I install Windows Vista SP2, is it likely to fuck up ... ?anything?

Should I just install Windows 7 over the top instead?

If I do that, will I lose anything?

Attn Repost Police: I searched, I couldn't find any discussions about it, but linkies if I am being dense would be much appreciated.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Service pack 2 will not change anything you notice.

You will lose everything with win 7 but you will have a computer that runs fine.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
You will lose everything with win 7 but you will have a computer that runs fine.


Only true if you decide to do a clean install of Windows 7. If you upgrade Windows Vista to Windows 7 you will not lose anything.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

True but upgrading to windows is like licking your plate clean before the next meal.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
Service pack 2 will not change anything you notice.


Cool, thanks Cool

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You will lose everything with win 7 but you will have a computer that runs fine.


Everything?

Does that mean
* music I [may nor may not] have downloaded
* pictures I have saved all over the place and not consistently in a sensible place
* all files
* passwords and cookies
* emails (I use Thunderbird in preference to Outlook)

Or just "all settings"

Or does that mean "everything" in the "You may as well reformat your C drive" kind of everything?
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
True but upgrading to windows is like licking your plate clean before the next meal.

You mean you're not supposed to do that either?
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installing windows 7 fresh is effectively wiping your HD (everything) then starting from scratch.

Upgrading is taking vista off and putting win 7 on without wiping first meaning traces of vista left all over the place.

What I do when upgrading is put everything I want, music, films, pictures onto a spare hard drive or memory sticks, install new windows, put stuff back.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
The Artist wrote:
Service pack 2 will not change anything you notice.


Cool, thanks Cool

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You will lose everything with win 7 but you will have a computer that runs fine.


Everything?

Does that mean
* music I [may nor may not] have downloaded
* pictures I have saved all over the place and not consistently in a sensible place
* all files
* passwords and cookies
* emails (I use Thunderbird in preference to Outlook)

Or just "all settings"

Or does that mean "everything" in the "You may as well reformat your C drive" kind of everything?


The Vista to 7 upgrade works very well and you shouldn't lose anything. Just stick the DVD in the drive and go.

Obviously you should take a backup before doing any upgrade to cater for unforseen circumstances like the cat walking over your keyboard etc.

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PostPosted: 12:41 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks chaps Wub

I'll just stick the Service Pack in for now and see what happens.

Hope it don't take too long to instal: his Majesty is supposed to be coming back to pick me up for a trip to France/Italy at some point today (we're already a day and a half late) (!!) and I won't be here for a couple of days, hopefully it will get done before he gets back Shocked

When I get back (if I actually bloody go!), I'm obviously going to have to seriously consider getting round to doing some "housework"... I have picture and music files all over the bloody place.

THEN I'll do a proper nice back-up.
And then maybe instal Windows 7...
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
True but upgrading to windows is like licking your plate clean before the next meal.


Not saying it is the best way to go, but it is still a possibility. It actually works well for people who are not reaqlly into computers. basically a vista computer upgraded to Windows 7 is a much better computer than a Vista one
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done a Vista Service Pack 2 install and that installed with no dramas.

You'll not regret moving to 7 though. Its a good operating system.

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PostPosted: 12:45 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajag wrote:
The Artist wrote:
True but upgrading to windows is like licking your plate clean before the next meal.


Not saying it is the best way to go, but it is still a possibility. It actually works well for people who are not reaqlly into computers. basically a vista computer upgraded to Windows 7 is a much better computer than a Vista one


Well yes... because its a Windows 7 computer after the upgrade.

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PostPosted: 12:52 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
ajag wrote:


Not saying it is the best way to go, but it is still a possibility. It actually works well for people who are not reaqlly into computers. basically a vista computer upgraded to Windows 7 is a much better computer than a Vista one


Well yes... because its a Windows 7 computer after the upgrade.

Mark


I meant it in the sense that it iwll be still better considering that there will be bits of Vista still lying around.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, well that went in quite smoothly (as the actress said to the bishop)

There are a few little peculiarities that I will look at when I get back, but as I am still cooling my heels indoors I have at least started to move all my files to sensible places. I *might* defrag based on that program in the other thread further down, but for now it seems to have installed the Service Pack 2 ok.

(its making a weird little noise in the background, though) Confused
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can partition the drive and keep all your files on the separate partition. that way you can almost do what you like and not worry about losing all your files.
this is what i recommend you do when you do a fresh install
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 10 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_godfather wrote:
you can partition the drive and keep all your files on the separate partition. that way you can almost do what you like and not worry about losing all your files.
this is what i recommend you do when you do a fresh install


Partition.
Oo that sounds complicated.
I shall have a think about that when I do the Windows 7 thing.
I'll get back to youse on that one ... later Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 10 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vista UPGRADES to Windows 7.

There is NO NEED to do a fresh install.

XP doesn't upgrade to 7. Its only XP PCs that have to do a clean (or custom as M$ like to call it) install.

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