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PostPosted: 08:38 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Is the R125 really a bad bike? Reply with quote

It seemed to get a bit of a slating when it came out, have peoples views changed? Is it a real contender for the top dog 125 or is the CBR and RS still up there?
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really does depend on your outlook I feel.

I know a ~35 year old man that bought one second hand and uses it for a cheap commuter as he prefers the sports-bike styling. For him it's a vastly better bike than a two stroke RS125 due to maintenence and running costs and the same with the CBR125 due to styling.

But for a young rider who just wants to go fast, sound fast and look fast, the RS125 is hugely good for their demands whereas the CBR125 looks slow and the R125 sounds like a fart.

Personally I would never own one on the basis you are paying for the plastic. It's slow, sounds awful and is pretending to be something it isn't. It really is the definition of a sheep in a wolf's clothing. It's a commuter bike in a race getup which doesn't belong.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved mine to pieces, sure it was a sheep in wolfs clothing (..... Thinking ) and bloody expensive but it looked awesome and was great to ride. If it wasn't so expensive I don't think it would have been slated so much, it got a rep for being a rich parent spoilt kids bike Confused
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your 17 and want something taht will impressthe 15 year old girls of the nation then yes the r125 is a winner. i would have wanted one when i was 17, it looks great! however with a sensible head on i would always go for the rs125, yes the maintainance is higher but bloody hell its not that difficult to change a barrel and piston and its not even that expensive. plus you can tap over 30bhp from them Mr. Green yes please
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend has a 2010 R125 in white, and it is very sexy and good looking, but the ride itself for me lacks feel compared to my ex RS125.

It's like comparing a nice Muller Yoghurt with some flavour to plain Milk.

Some people like it cheap and plain, some like abit of tastebud, mouth watering stuff.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

to me it looks alright (but i dont like hard lines and edges as seems to be the current trend). I didnt like the ride of it, but im a funny shape i think. Not comfy on a lot of bikes. I would not pay 4k for a 125 either unless it was something special, which i didnt feel it was.

Flip side of that i guess is its their money, their choice. Clearly some people feel they are worth it as there seems to be many happy buyers Smile

Never know 125s like this could become more popular in a few years time with the new changes to tests.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its an OK bike, for a 125.
A 125 is what it is, a small bike for learners or people to get around in towns etc.
Its not fast at all, i think 70/75 is the accepted speed of it.
It isnt too comfy, I found its seat harder than wood.

Its all about the show off factor with kids, this does its job perfect! Most will go down the road and be sold for near half what they paid for them.

Its a good bike for town use and getting your first sexual experience with a girl.

It not good as a long term bike, although im a bit hypocritical as I bought a pit bike for commuting Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

75 is plenty, but it's more how it gets there that bored me the fuck off
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overpriced

That is all. It is a 4t 125, the same as any other apart from the fairings and the price, it is pretty much the same as any other new 4t 125.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

FURBAR wrote:
The new KTM 125 is around the 4k mark, why would you buy one of these .... Rolling Eyes


im not sure if you're being sarky or not here. if you are (and refering to the sx/exc) why would you buy one? well: fastest accelerating 125 going, arguably looks the best, truly devolped from racing - straight outa the box and boom its competative with the competition.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRF_Rider wrote:
: fastest accelerating 125 going,



orrr notttt
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

go on then so whats faster? please don't say the RS lol
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really dont understand what all the hype is about 125's that look like their bigger counterparts.

Yeah they look the part..... mostly. The 17 year old chav thinks he's great on a 'fast' 125 that beats most 125's on the road but in comparison to even the lowly ER5 which doesnt look fast but would eat and shit a 125 sports replica.

Take the yamaha R125 copy of the R1. The R1 would go faster in first than the 125 goes in 6th.

IMHO they are a big waste of money.

The first thing people want when they pass their test is a bigger bike so why spend over the odds on a plastic fantastic that looks the part but doesnt really go fast.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The first thing people want when they pass their test is a bigger bike so why spend over the odds on a plastic fantastic that looks the part but doesnt really go fast.


I'd hazard a guess along the lines of you'd only need to pass a CBT to ride an R125, not a full motorcycle test.

With 0% finance agreements with tiny deposits, it's no wonder they're quite popular, if I was 17 and yet to pass my test, I'd probably lust after one.

It's all good and well comparing one to an RS125, but let's not forget, to get the full use of the Aprillia "legally", one must pass their test first to have them derestricted. In restricted form, I doubt there'd be much difference between the two.

Only thing I don't like about them asthetically is the slim/high tail, other than that, they look a lot better than the CBR125, which is probably its direct competitor.

But for me, they're way too expensive, even as a cheap commuter. Whereas I can see myself taking the piss and buying a used CBR125, the Yamaha doesn't invoke similar hilarity for some reason.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:


I'd hazard a guess along the lines of you'd only need to pass a CBT to ride an R125, not a full motorcycle test.


CBT costs around £100 and needs done every 2 years.

Full motorcycle test (theory, mod 1 and mod 2) costs around £130 and only needs done once providing you pass first time.

Its more cost effective to do your CBT and then get the full license within the first year. You'll pay £30 more for the privilage but will never have to sit another test (unless your a twat and lose your license)
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
craigs23 wrote:


I'd hazard a guess along the lines of you'd only need to pass a CBT to ride an R125, not a full motorcycle test.


CBT costs around £100 and needs done every 2 years.

Full motorcycle test (theory, mod 1 and mod 2) costs around £130 and only needs done once providing you pass first time.

Its more cost effective to do your CBT and then get the full license within the first year. You'll pay £30 more for the privilage but will never have to sit another test (unless your a twat and lose your license)


I know.

But imagine it from the perspective of a 17 year old:

You ride around a car park for a morning, then you're out on the road in a yellow bib being shouted at by some berk on an ER-5 for an hour or so.

You get a nice CBT certificate and then you're allowed to ride something that looks a bit like an R6.

I doubt many 17 year olds are going to worry about what's cost effective or not. I just wanted to get riding when I was that age, two years seemed like a hell of a long time to get my proper bike test sorted. In the meantime, you can try and convince the World that you're the next Rossi, you can get your knee down at will and your R1 replica breaks the ton everyday on the way to college.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont get me wrong. I can see the appeal of the little beasties. They look fast and the chavs think they are the bollocks on a replica bike.

I just dont see the point when it is so easy to get through the test and get a bike that looks as fast and goes like stink in comparison.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I really dont understand what all the hype is about 125's that look like their bigger counterparts.

Yeah they look the part..... mostly. The 17 year old chav thinks he's great on a 'fast' 125 that beats most 125's on the road but in comparison to even the lowly ER5 which doesnt look fast but would eat and shit a 125 sports replica.

Take the yamaha R125 copy of the R1. The R1 would go faster in first than the 125 goes in 6th.

IMHO they are a big waste of money.

The first thing people want when they pass their test is a bigger bike so why spend over the odds on a plastic fantastic that looks the part but doesnt really go fast.


FURBAR care to exlain how exactly that post is a flame?
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. I'll take it as an illogical vote with no real reason other than to offend.

MR mod sir. I'll have that revoked if you please.

I dont mind getting negative votes if there is a valid reason behind them. But for the sake of voting then thats just daft.
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