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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Thrilling Ride! Reply with quote

NOT a very long one, or very exiting.... I rode around my garden, BUT, it was still a thrill!
I rode this:-
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/teflons-torque/Little%20Dreams/imag0765.jpg
I bought it back in May for the grand sum of £200, taxed & tested, but dead! It had a siezed engine, and gawd alone knows how it got its MOT cert, as the forks seals were shot and the head-race bearings notchy, and the back suspension was sloppy AND siezed!
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/teflons-torque/Little%20Dreams/pi6f8a01.jpg
This had been procured a few weeks before, for £300, and was a runner, except when we started to try and tidy it up, the list of faults grew rapidly, and the faulty carburettor causing it to run a 'bit rough' became the least of our worries when I discovered some-one had removed chunks of the frame with an angle grinder, and drilled holes in other bits of it! So it became a 'donor' for the other bikes, and offered up its engine for the one above.
Anyway, over Easter, I had swapped the motors over and made sure that it ran, and with the red bikes carbs and exhaust, but didn't actually ride it. After checking the viability of the motor swap, I started stripping it down and renovating it.
First things to be tackled were the forks, which were stripped and rebuilt with new seals and gaiters. New head-race bearings were fitted, and the rear suspension stripped, beaten into submission, geased and re-assembled, and fitted back on with a second hand shock off another bike.
It was starting to come back together, when the centre stand colapsed! This pigged me off some-what, but then some local scroats decided to nick it!
It was half complete, with no carbs on it, and no electrics, variouse wires hanging out of the headlamps shell, but they still thought they could get it started, before dumping it in a hedge round the corner.
Police found it, before I actually reported it stolen, after walking round the neighbourhood trying to find the hedge it might have been dumped in! Turned out it had been 'Recovered' and they bludy recovery people tried charging me damn nearly what I paid for it for the privilidge of moving it FURTHEr away from my house than the bludy twockkers!
I lost heart in the project some-what after that, but Snowies Project isn't moving very far very fast, and I'm fed up with her moaning about bus-fares and badgering me for lifts, So I took a long hard look at it, and decided to give it another bash.
That was last week. after some tinkering with carburettors, I got life, so the back brake was greased up and re-fitted, drive chain put back on and tensioned, covers and guards refitted, and the gear-lever put back on. All of which meant that it had the essentials for motion.... so I rode it round teh garden!
Snowie then set about sorting some insurance, and I set about sorting out the electrics.
The back brake light now works. The headlight 'sort' of works, theres a dodgy contact in the Hi-Lo switch, and I need to find some indcators.
BUT, hopefully I'll manage to suss that tomorrow, and Snowie will have a winter rider.
Anyway, after my little ride, I came in grinning like an idiot, jumping up and down for joy at my achievement.... It was completely wasted on the woman... she just didn't get it, so I thought I'd tell you lot!
There's just something gleeful about resurecting an old wreck, and that 'first ride' filled with so much trepidation, is, well, doesn't matter what the bike is; the satisfaction & shear delight of moving under power, on a machine YOU have made, is SO much more rewarding than ANYTHING you can buy in the show-room.
That litte potter in 1st gear, round my garden, was far more thrilling than jumping on a brand-new hyper-bike and maxing it out just to see what it can do!
Daft, but THAT is why we do it. Doesn't matter that our projects cost us more in money, blood sweat and tears than sensible people figure they are worth, they just DONT understant that first ride thrill, do they?
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done that man! Thumbs Up Smile
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job sir Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A workmate commutes on one of these, I'm pretty sure a tidy example would be an awesome little bike, unfortunately his is anything but tidy Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb wrote:
A workmate commutes on one of these, I'm pretty sure a tidy example would be an awesome little bike, unfortunately his is anything but tidy Laughing

Lol, so many are!
But they can be pretty impressive.
The neighbours certainly were impressed, or at least I THINK that was what they were, Sunday morning when I fired it up and discovered that I'd twisted one of the throttle slides while fitting, & the tacho needle went off the scale at 13K, and stayed there whilst I prodded and poked stuff trying to work out why!
Red one still looks pretty much like the photo, unfortunately.
I was just about to start prepping the body-work for painting when it got twokked, so it never got done. Underneath it looks a lot better than it does on top! And it looks better in the pics than it does in real life! I wont bother tidying it up now until Snowies bike's done, hopefully for the better weather in spring.
Let the winter do its worst on paint that dont matter!
Snowies should be pretty impressive when it's done though. Complete ground up job, starting with a blasted frame, and a LOT of new parts.
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/teflons-torque/Little%20Dreams/imag1656.jpg
Its getting there, but OH! so slowly.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're dead right,Mike, nothing quite like bringing something back to life that previously was dead.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have a matt black one on an X -reg in 1997
Cool bikes, much better then a CG. One of the exhaust headers kept blowing off the head on mine, which made it sound err interesting Smile
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of power can these make?

Can't wait to see the showroom version when its done!
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very little if my workmate's one is anything to go by, flat out on a good near mile long straight it pushes 45mph. The right side exhaust smokes fairly bad though so it's probably a fair way down on power.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

also got one of these

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/sfpeddler/jens%20bike/1ee484f5.jpg

Bought like this and looks 10000000 time better in the pic lol, the guy mustve had share's in hammerite/underseal and pvc tape as thats all it was made out of.

Had it 2 days then it and thought i better have a look at it, by the end of the day it looked like this

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/sfpeddler/jens%20bike/0d264eba.jpg

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/sfpeddler/jens%20bike/9b15e700.jpg

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/sfpeddler/jens%20bike/55c3b7f0.jpg

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/sfpeddler/jens%20bike/8320e3a8.jpg

Frame went total strip down and back to bare metal before new swingarm was sourced.
Has had new bearings and seals etc etc and is now in filler/primer ready to be resprayed (no pics atm) its in a basic rolling chasis state atm, but as always is on the back burner atm whilst I get my new garage/shed build
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedd wrote:
also got one of these
Had it 2 days then it and thought i better have a look at it, by the end of the day it looked like this
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/sfpeddler/jens%20bike/9b15e700.jpg

Lol!
Even stripped its tidier than the silver one we bought:-
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/teflons-torque/Little%20Dreams/imag0829.jpg
Laughing
NEVER tell Snowie, "just start taking that apart" waving vaguely at a back indicator assembly, then go make a cup of coffee!
Mind them green-house glazing strips under the tail cowling are a bugger to get off, ent they!
itsallgood wrote:
What sort of power can these make?
Can't wait to see the showroom version when its done!

The original, twin-shock CB125T claimed about 17bhp, and around 80mph. The post '82 'mono-shock' 'Super-Dream' models were de-tuned to comply with the 125 Learner-Laws, and claimed a learner-legal 12.5bhp, and a 70+ish top speed.
I've pondered the differneces in the earlier T model, to see if it would be viable to de-restrict the super-Dream engine, but theres a lot of differences, and ultimately, the difference pretty small. Keep being told taht the CB200 motor is the same, and the later CB 'Two-Fifty' engine drops straight in. Tempted by a 200 motor, as it keeps it under the 225cc tax & insurance limit. 17bhp though is only the same as the unrestrcted T model, but with a fiar bit more low down grunt.... yeah... OK we're not torquing Harley stomp here, but reletively, a useful improvement in 'useable' power.
Seb wrote:
Very little if my workmate's one is anything to go by, flat out on a good near mile long straight it pushes 45mph. The right side exhaust smokes fairly bad though so it's probably a fair way down on power.

Its one of bug-bears of the model. Back in 1982, the Super-Dream was Honda's flag-ship Learner-Legal, lining up against Kawasaki's AR125 and Yamaha's RD125, and waving Sochiro's Four-Stroke flag. It was actually the more expensive, new, I seem to recall.
Against its restricted 2T rivals, its performance was not un-respectable. But it's concervative styling and four-stroke engine meant it was the bike your Dad chose for you! It wasn't inspiring, and you couldn't easily tune them. As years passed and the expectations on a sporty-bike means wide tyres and fairings, it's styling clumped it in with the budget comuters. And its testiment to how rugged they are that with a 13,000rpm twin-pot OHC motor, so many have survived so long in that world!
I mean, these things are quarter of a century old, and living along-side low-rent, CG125's, KH125's and RSX100's with owners strictly abiding by the 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' philosophy!
But they aren't a budget commuter bike, built to take that kind of abuse, they are a high performance (by early 80's standards!) 125 sports-bike, that should warrant maintenence comensurate with it's performance.
Few get it, but where most of the eighties 2T RD's & AR's have succomed to the inevitable of neglect and abuse, and the few that remain are cherished teen-age revival toys or 'classics', many Super-Dreams are still here, working for a living!
But, they need valves & camchain tensioner adjusted frequently, and they need oil changes & the strainer cleaning to keep them on form, and if they dont get it, the boires wear prematurely, they loose compression, and as the valve clerances open up and the cam-chain stretched the timing retards and they loose SO much of the power they might have. Original two-into-two exhausts rot, too, and are expensive to replace (or were), so its down to coke cans and jubilee clips with them in many cases!
rob yarrr wrote:
dam i want onecg<cb

When snowie's finished hers, you can have the Red one if you want. Bit of luck it'll be freshly fettled and painted and presented with a new MOT and Tax disc, in about six months time.
LongJohn22 wrote:
You're dead right,Mike, nothing quite like bringing something back to life that previously was dead.

Some things are best left dead (snowie has a thing for Zombie Movies!), but when it comes to motorbikes.......
First one I've revived in a LONG time.... feels GOOD!
Anyway, some bits for Snowie's bike arrived this morning. £60's worth of LED light-bulbs, and some bushes for her rear swing arm, so plenty to do!
(OH! Rear Suspension linkage! Probably THE main killer of Super-Dreams! Theres about a DOZEN stupid stintered bushes in it, EACH about £10 a time! Not surprising, then few get properly over-hauled, when they get sloppy, becouse no-one's bothered to grease them for twenty years!)
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL:DR.

Have one of these anyway:

https://www.ideasden.com/upload/2010/09/cool-story-bro-jesus.jpg

Just out of interest, is the thing holding the manual a male or female? If it is a female, i think this must be a first for BCF:
Please do not post tits, just gtfo.

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PostPosted: 09:18 - 17 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
TL:DR.

Just out of interest, is the thing holding the manual a male or female? If it is a female, i think this must be a first for BCF:
Please do not post tits, just gtfo.

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PostPosted: 10:14 - 17 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personal comments of that nature say far more about the poster than I ever could.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 17 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good project!

This forum seems to have a lack of decent projects going on at the moment (or maybe I've just not seen them) but this one looks good.

Although, it might be better off in the Show and Tell area...
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 17 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob yarrr wrote:
haha how much will you sell it for if you ever did ? (the red one) might put a 250 engine in, if it fits straight in

Red one was always going to be for sale. Bought it to make the best of a bad job with the silver-one, get some of my money back, and do a bit of monkey-see-monkey do, along side Snowie doing hers. When she's finished with it, & I;ve got it all painted up, I'll probably be looking for £500-£600 for it, with fresh T&T.
E-bay, they typically go for around £250 in the sort of state that would lend a motor swap. CB200 mills, especially ones with the ancilliaries you need, like the carbs, seem to go for almost as much! But, pick your bids, hunt about, you could probably do something fairly tidy along them lines, and have something OTR for about £500.
MarJay wrote:
Good project!

Which One!? Mine, Snowies or Pedd's!
You wouldn't think so many people were prannying about with old Super-Dream's would you Lol!
MarJay wrote:
This forum seems to have a lack of decent projects going on at the moment (or maybe I've just not seen them) but this one looks good.

Like Busses, wait for ever, then three come along all at once.
I'm just taking a break.
JUST dropped the damn thing!
Pushed the headl-lamp in, electrics went off! (Dont they always!) Took the keys out, popped the seat, blody side stand slipped out from under it, after waggling the handlebars about faffing with the electrics in the headlamp! Well pissed off!
If ONLY I can get that ruddy head-lamp in, I can ride it round the block to the motor-factors, see if it'll go through the gears'n'stuff, and get a flashicator for the winkers! Then Snowie can go test it down the lanes!
MarJay wrote:
Although, it might be better off in the Show and Tell area...

Maybe... wasmn't really a full on, "LOOK I built this today!" post though, more a "HEy, I just got all exited!" kind of thing.
Snowies project's on S&T....pup project 1986 honda cb 125 super dream photo resto, except I've just notoced half the pics are missing.... she must have 'tidied up' again...... she does that frequently.... I can NEVER find stuff, like the springs for the headlamp I put safely in a pot, or the bolts for teh foot-rests..... "Oh! I tidied up!" She says, and they're never found again! & Between her and the washing machine, I cant remember the last time I had a pair of matching socks!
She hasn't updated it lately, as theres been nothing photogenic to record. But we hung the swing arm and linkage last night, after spending the after-noon fitting all her LED bulbs, and trying to sort out the wiring a bit, so maybe she'll be prompted to put the pics back and do an up-date in the near future.
Got her sorting out the choke cable on the red one at the minute though..... fed up trying to lean over the top tickling it at the carb whilst feathering the throttle!
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 17 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the LED bulbs any good?
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 17 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

itsallgood wrote:
Are the LED bulbs any good?

Seem to be, but as the bike they're fitted to is sat behind my setee at the moment.... they've not been road tested!
LED side-light is definitely a lot brighter; almost enough to ride by on its own, as well as drawing a lot less power.
Tail/Stop, are a 'bit' brighter, but the spread is good. Only trouble is the LED's sent were red, when I asked for white, as its a combined number-plate lamp too, so they may yet go back.
Indicators are good.
But the dash-lamps are the most impressive. Lot 'whiter' light on the back-lights, which is good as Snowie has some custom 'picture' over-lays on the dial faces, so the colours in the transparencies come up a lot clearer.
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/teflons-torque/Little%20Dreams/spd_03.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/teflons-torque/Little%20Dreams/tac_02.jpg
Next mod is to try and adapt the headlamp to take a standard car tye Halogen 50/55 bulb, and to see what the effect of adding some silvering into the tail-lamp and indicators to help throw the light out the lenses.
Power Drain, or lack-there-of is most impressive though. Snowie left the lights on over night, headlamp bulb wasn't connected though, but the battery, that didn't have enough charge to pap the horn whan I'd finished mucking about for the night, kept the LED's glowing till morning!
Oh; forgot to mention: Anomolies with LED Lamps, & Indicators Over on work-shop.
Discovered that the LED for the Indicator tell-tale caused some strange happenings due to how its wired in to the original circuit, that needs a couple of diodes and a propper earth to sort!
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