DNA 50 WATER TROUBLE

[bikerbenny]

let me start by saying i know nothing about bikes , but i have a slight problem

gilera dna 50 , 04 plate

i bought the bike yesterday and noticed that the water bottle was empty , so i filled it up to the top , this morning , same problem NO WATER! , i filled up for the second time in 24 hours , 3 hours later , no water AGAIN! , what could be the problem , i have attached a picture of were the water is leaking

and the temprature gauge is always reading maximum heat lol

[connornrg]

[bikerbenny]

[Glenben92]

Well you NEVER fill a cooling system with water for a start. you fill it with coolant.
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[bikerbenny]

oh no , told u i dont have a clue! , what would you recomend to do? what could happen now?

[bikerbenny]

so antifreeze and water?

[P.]

[bikerbenny]

obviously by the time i have traveled to were im going there is no water left to freeze so for the time being it is ok , so if i can see the leak shud i just try to some how cover were its leaking?

[HD]

[P.]

[bikerbenny]

cheers paddy , finally a non sarcastic , helpfull reply

could this lead to the bike losing some power?

the coolant bottle is now empty so in the morning if i put water in the bike to get me to work witch is 1.5 mile away , and i can put my life on it that there will be little water in the bottle by the time i get there , then put water in the bike before i head home , would this be ok to do?

it is distilled bottled water by the way? if that makes a difrence

[Glenben92]

[Livefast123]

If it's pissing out whats the point of using coolant Water will be fine for now until you have fixed the leak. The only problem with water is that it will freeze and possibly crack your head if the temp gets real cold but seeing as it all leaks out that won't be a problem.

What you need to do is fill the bike before you go to work then stop halfway and keep the engine running. Look down into the area you have highlighted and see if you can locate the leak May be easier to use coloured coolant to see. As said if it is a rubber pipe then that would be dead easy to replace.

I'm not that familiar with the DNA 50 but it should have a water pump to circulate the coolant. Sometimes these wear and leak or the gasket leaks. Another possibility is that the water jacket on the head may have a small crack or the headgasket may have gone.

The first priority is to locate the leak. If you have run it at 'maximum heat' then you may have warped the head making the head gasket leak worse,

If you bought it from a garage then get it back there or if you bought it off ebay etc get doing the above
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[bikerbenny]

could i ride it 1.5 mile with just water then put coolant in? after i have sealed the leak? and by coolant u mean anti freeze right?

[cb1rocket]

anti freeze and water or premixed if its so after you have fixed the leak. To be honest your riding the bike with quite a big leak by the sounds of things and it appears to me that unless you get the leak fixed, you risk kissing goodbye to the bike.

[bikerbenny]

here is the picture of where the leak is coming from..

any help will be much appreciated

[cb1rocket]

its not clear but it could well be the gasket has gone under the water pump housing.

Is it actually leaking from that point or dripping from there which is somewhere further up?

[bikerbenny]

its dripping from that point?

[P.]

Could well be a gasket, could be a crack in a pipe.
What you could do is make a note of what pipes go where on the outside of the engine.

Take off the bike, Lay it out on cardboard, get rubber bungs in the pipes(or use screws/bolts..ive seen it bodged lol!) then fill up without spilling on the cardboard and then look for a wet patch.

That will narrow down where the leak is, if it is outside of the engine.

Not sure how simple it is for you to do this, but its what I did with my cars radiator and piping.

As to the riding 1.5 miles to get coolant, of course you can...water will work just as well for such a short trip, but make sure you ratio it properly.

Also dont get confused... Ive got antifreeze to put in my car tomorrow, its labelled coolant/antifreeze. Ive used stuff just labelled coolant before and went through winter with 0 troubles!

Hope you get it sorted, I know what its like, had the car off the road for a week due to a radiator leak

[Livefast123]

Can't really see from the pics but leaking water has a habit of travelling. However from that location I say waterpump seals / gasket are the prime suspect.

Done a google search, see this about pump seals / gasket :-

https://www.scootershack.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6262

Don't ride your liquid cooled ped with no coolant in it or your current problems are going to look minor in comparison!!
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[cb1rocket]

as above get the bike fully inspected, I don't know how much £££££ you spent on the bike but at that rate you could be left with a bike worth nothing.

Get it sorted or if you don't know what your doing, then get someone who does know or a mechanic.

[bikerbenny]

cheers lads , will update tomorow , ill go and see my local bike bloke , see what he says , thermostat and gasket 4.99 on ebay..

dont sound too bad...

cheers..

[Livefast123]

Thermostat is not what you need although it wouldn't hurt replacing it.

Depending on what the garage says but i recon it will be the waterpump / gasket / impeller seals.

This - https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WATER-PUMP-REPAIR-KIT-GILERA-RUNNER-DNA-50cc-WAT5-/130455692493?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1e5fc3e4cd
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[P.]

[Livefast123]

Calm down Look at my last post then see what the garage say!
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