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PostPosted: 20:45 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Buying a brand new car Reply with quote

Well, not strictly buying. Im doing ok at work,no commitments and want a car, im bored of the cold now, i drove past a renault garage the other day and saw a car, a twingo?£129 a month for 3 years then after 3years you can trade it for a new car. Seems ok, £129 deposit aswell.

Anyone done a similar thing, are they as they seem or riddled with clauses and tricks.

thanks, nick
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is pretty much that really bar maybe some more pennies at trade in time? Depends on the condition / mileage at the time.

More of a question being, do you realy want a Twingo for the next 3 years?
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats a fair point actually, they did have some other tidier cars, clio and megane caught my eye, more ££'s though.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
More of a question being, do you realy want a French car for the next 3 years?


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Im sure Toyota are doing some form of a deal like this.. and have a nicer, more reliable choice of cars.

As you aren't buying it outright.. im not sure on the whole process, but buying a BRAND NEW car has never crossed my mind, same with bikes.. always a super super low mileage half year old one for a few K less.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing with buying a brand new car (other than the depreciation etc etc) is that it traps you, mentally.

After having a brand new car you will always want a brand new one, sucked into the trap of thinking new = good, constantly paying £xxx per month to the car companies, ignoring potentially better cars just because they are used.

I will have a brand new car one day - I like the idea of it, but only when I can afford one which will be amazing - like a 911.

Until then, I'll have used ones thanks, it allows easier progression up the motoring scale, and flexibility. Plus, it's cheaper. For 3or4 installments on that Twingo you could have a useable car. All cars are amazing - I love my £300 clio, I have fun driving it, I have fun driving any car tbh - so why pay a fuckload of cash just to have something new?
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you want to rent a crap car for 3 years, then hand it back and start again? Or am I missing something?
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah thats the idea, its appealing to me as its easy on the cash flow and ive got no 'real' commitment to it, and if/when i get bored after 3 years i can get a new one.

But at the same time i get a fully warranted car, brand new, first owner, 0miles pros and cons
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 01 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can often get the same Personal Contract Hire type of deals on used stuff. I used it to get my Mx5 which was about 18 months old at the time and about 6k cheaper than a new one!

I really doubt you want to be in a twingo for 3 years... the novelty of 'new' isn't worth the money, imo
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got my C2 VTR HDi for £120 a month (with an initial payment of about £350) brand new under warranty on a 2 year deal, don't have to worry about depreciation, tax and breakdown paid for my Citroen.

Does me fine for a runaround as I dont need anything flash, costs next to nothing to run and at the time it made more sense than buying a banger for £350.

If you dont have the cash to buy a new car or dont want to take the hit on depreciation but you want the peice of mind of having a brand new car under warranty that you just hand back after 2 or 3 years it seems to make sense to me.

The car would have been £10-12k new, it's now worth £6k and ive got it for another year!
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely you could get a nice 2nd hand car.
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PostPosted: 03:00 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Buying a brand new car Reply with quote

RS2MATRIX wrote:
Well, not strictly buying. Im doing ok at work,no commitments and want a car, im bored of the cold now, i drove past a renault garage the other day and saw a car, a twingo?£129 a month for 3 years then after 3years you can trade it for a new car. Seems ok, £129 deposit aswell.

Anyone done a similar thing, are they as they seem or riddled with clauses and tricks.

thanks, nick
Do you really want:

A car you need to keep immaculate for 3 years?
A car for, well, 3 years??
Financial commitment for 3 years, having none now is when you should be saving for a rainy day.
A brand new car that'll be worth a mere 5K soon as it rolls off the forecourt?
A car you want own for 3 years but will pay thru the nose for EVERYTHING for?


Go get a pretty, nice lil used one. Least then its had some wear and been tested a bit.
Btw French cars aint bad, few of em are some the best around.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Buying a brand new car Reply with quote

RS2MATRIX wrote:
Well, not strictly buying. Im doing ok at work,no commitments and want a car, im bored of the cold now, i drove past a renault garage the other day and saw a car, a twingo?£129 a month for 3 years then after 3years you can trade it for a new car. Seems ok, £129 deposit aswell.

Anyone done a similar thing, are they as they seem or riddled with clauses and tricks.

thanks, nick


Wife does this, after three years swap it for new, hand it back, or pay the optional final payment and the car is yours.
She's been doing it for 9 years now, 3 new motors. (latest is the Twingo, she likes it, so do I).
It's good in the snow too, bonus.
We had two Clios before this, and never a problem with any of them.
She doesn't do many miles at all, only about 2500 per year, and the cars are always immaculate when they go back, so we get a good deal for the next one. (mate at dealers too, so that helps)
Her monthly payments have come down at every trade in so far.
This will be the last though, as she retires next year.


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PostPosted: 09:55 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the same as my mum does on her car

Only problem is you are limited in mileage heres is 12K i think and then it's 10p a mile after that

She's got a Skoda Fabia, they pay services cost and warrenty part...even come with full tank of fuel

WIN WIN in my eyes
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS2MATRIX wrote:
yeah thats the idea, its appealing to me as its easy on the cash flow and ive got no 'real' commitment to it, and if/when i get bored after 3 years i can get a new one.


You have to be very careful with these deals. What they don't tell you is after the 3 years you HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER NEW CAR OR PAY THE REST OF THE BALANCE IN CASH.

Be prepared for that. Its fine if you can get a decent loan as you can have the car fr 3 years on 0% and then pay the other lot off.

What kind of money are you looking to spend?
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:

You have to be very careful with these deals. What they don't tell you is after the 3 years you HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER NEW CAR OR PAY THE REST OF THE BALANCE IN CASH.

Be prepared for that. Its fine if you can get a decent loan as you can have the car fr 3 years on 0% and then pay the other lot off.

What kind of money are you looking to spend?


Or hand the car back to them and walk away.

They DO tell you that, it's hardly a secret!
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this earlier this year, got a Toyota IQ on the scrappage scheme. Works well. I bought into the pre-pay servicing as well as it saved a few hundred over the 3 years.
At the end of the three years I'll either give them the car back if they don't have anything else I like, or, if they do, I'll chop it for another Toyota.
We did the maths before buying in and it worked out cheaper than running the bike and old car by a fairly decent margin.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisw wrote:
We did the maths before buying in and it worked out cheaper than running the bike and old car by a fairly decent margin.


Really?

In the 16months I've had mine, it has cost....

£312 - Purchase price
£180 - tax (18 months)
£30 - 3 tyres
£27 - Puncture repair & tracking
£30 - Oil & filter
£250 - MOT & repairs
£829 TOTAL

Let's say £900 just for the hell of it - or an average of £57 per month. I'd be suprised if you can get a new car for that money.

Does 45mpg too...
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
chrisw wrote:
We did the maths before buying in and it worked out cheaper than running the bike and old car by a fairly decent margin.


Really?

In the 16months I've had mine, it has cost....

£312 - Purchase price
£180 - tax (18 months)
£30 - 3 tyres
£27 - Puncture repair & tracking
£30 - Oil & filter
£250 - MOT & repairs
£829 TOTAL

Let's say £900 just for the hell of it - or an average of £57 per month. I'd be suprised if you can get a new car for that money.

Does 45mpg too...


Yeah, we worked it out over the previous 2 years of running the Mini and Bandit. Two very cheap vehicles to maintain (other than the MOT, I do all the work myself) and both do about ~45mpg (Mini slightly less, Bandit slightly more).

I could have switched to 1 vehicle but of the two I had, the Bandit couldn't do everything I need and the Mini wouldn't cope with the miles (50mile commute per day). On top of that the Mini was due some serious work both body and oily so that pushed the numbers up.

From two lots of insurance, tax, MOT and general maintenance, I now have no MOT, no tax and 1 insurance policy (which is the same as the Mini, ~£15 a month). On top of that, the IQ averages 52mpg.

The hardest thing for us to deal with was scrapping a Mini. Especially as we'd bought it as a rotten shell, nailed it together in a month and then slung it round Castle Combe more times than I really should have. Fun car, sad its gone but that's life Sad
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm the base Twingo is £8695 OTR, over 3 years you'd pay £4600 ish. On the renualt website a quick search shows a 2007 twingo with 16k on the clock is worth about £5000. So basically they are selling a £8695 car for £9600, clever Smile
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