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 slyrob Traffic Copper

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 Posted: 02:48 - 10 Dec 2010 Post subject: Hit by a bus: Strange theft update |
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Well after getting my bike back on the road last week my efforts were destroyed today by a London bus driver, he pulled out of a bus stop into me and my bike ended up sandwiched between his bus the road and some poor bastards car. Amazingly I am fine apart from a sore ankle but I fear my bike is a gonner, damage as far as I can tell so far is
fucked exhaust
dented swing arm
4 indicators
mirror
screen
front fairing
side fairings
lower fairings
rear fairings
bent forks (which I replaced only last week)
engine casing (oil all over the road)
brake lever
bar end
hole in jacket
hole in jeans
scratched helmet
my insurance is TFT so I also had to pay to have the bike recovered which entailed £104 and waiting at the side of the road for 4 hours, luckily its nice and warm outside
I have heard nightmare stories about claiming from London transport, anybody experience this? bus driver claimed it wasn't his fault however the fact that my bike was behind his front wheel would suggest otherwise, does the fact that my bike then hit somebodies car affect my insurance?
Also, any ideas on getting my wife to come round to the fact that I will get another bike appreciated! ____________________ Pitslayer wrote "it could be Ndubz.....ruining this once great place with donkey gobbling loafer knobbing "music".
silky666 wrote "In my eyes, when you shake cocks with the devil, you may as well go for the full reach around"
Villers wrote "as reliable as a ginger stepchild on smack"
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Gota watch them buses sneaking up on yha ,,,,,
Look for passengers geting on or off ... ____________________ miketovey wrote: I am not a teenage emo with "girl problems", just a 29 year old loser.
The Shaggy D.A. wrote: Ignore him, it's just a man/child/troll hybrid. |
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Anytime !! ... pics diagram .. ty ...
............................................................................................ ____________________ miketovey wrote: I am not a teenage emo with "girl problems", just a 29 year old loser.
The Shaggy D.A. wrote: Ignore him, it's just a man/child/troll hybrid. |
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 Mister James I want to believe!

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Sorry to hear about the bike. Have some to cheer you up, well done for not getting crushed! ____________________ Current Bike: 2018 Honda CRF250L
Ex-Bikes: 2002 Honda CG125, 1998 Honda VFR800, 2011 Honda CBR600F, 2013 Triumph Sprint GT SE, 2015 Kawasaki ZX10R |
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 Posted: 11:38 - 10 Dec 2010 Post subject: |
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Did you take photos? and did you get the car driver's details.
If this incident turns out to be the bus driver's fault, then the bus company's insurance will pay out for your bike, your injuries AND the damage to the poor bloke's car as well.
If you have the details of the car driver, who's side was he on? who did he believe was at fault? because he will be a valuable witness, as he, although involved in the accident, is still an independent witness. (he doesn't give a shyte which of you pays out for him).
Photos will do a world of good in this situation, because if you were behind his front wheel you were right in his blindspot as he pulled out, meaning he didn't check.
Was traffic stationary? Filtering accidents are easiest to prove if traffic is stationary as you are filtering Perfectly legally.
Get in touch with your insurance company asap, and tell them everything, they might get you booked in to go and see a doctor so you can claim for your ankle. And take photos of, and keep all damaged items until the claim is over. |
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 Posted: 13:31 - 10 Dec 2010 Post subject: |
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There should be a rearward facing camera above the cab window on the outside of the bus, all our newer buses have one because many drivers play the old game of "wait untill the bus indicates right, then overtake at warp speed"
As far as i'm aware (being a yorkshire man) the majority, if not all buses in london are under 3 years old... engine emmisions reasons or something...
Hopefully that buses cctv had it's hard drive fitted that day  |
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Driver took photos, bus wasn't moving as I started to overtake then pulled out as I was alongside giving me nowhere to go. The other traffic was stationary. Police attended the accident and took statements. So I guess I have a long wait till I can get on two wheels again  ____________________ Pitslayer wrote "it could be Ndubz.....ruining this once great place with donkey gobbling loafer knobbing "music".
silky666 wrote "In my eyes, when you shake cocks with the devil, you may as well go for the full reach around"
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Rob you wanna borrow my Diversion? You'll have to insure it coz it's parked up but it's MOT'd and ready to go so all you have to do is put it on your insurance. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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It's SORN'ed right now but I was planning to tax it so we can sort that. Also needs a new battery but I'll get one of those too since it needs it anyway. It's nowt special but it'll get you a-b. I'll go find the documents. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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it appears my insurance doesn't include legal cover either so if anyone can recommend a no win no fee type firm that would be most kind. although I'm unlikely to be claiming for injury so I presume that will make it more difficult  ____________________ Pitslayer wrote "it could be Ndubz.....ruining this once great place with donkey gobbling loafer knobbing "music".
silky666 wrote "In my eyes, when you shake cocks with the devil, you may as well go for the full reach around"
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their advice was that they can present the case for me but as its against metroline a legal team would offer more bite and would be better at resolving the filtering issue
anyway here is the obligatory paint diagram and yes I know my positioning leaves a lot to be desired
https://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab349/slyrob/bus.jpg ____________________ Pitslayer wrote "it could be Ndubz.....ruining this once great place with donkey gobbling loafer knobbing "music".
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I don't see anything wrong with your positioning?
I do that all the time.
Did the bus indicate before he pulled out? ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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........... So you put yourself between a bus and a car ...
............................................................................................. ____________________ miketovey wrote: I am not a teenage emo with "girl problems", just a 29 year old loser.
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Those of us who live in London...
If we didn't, we wouldnt get anywhere at all, ever.
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he didn't indicate until he moved, and relentless please go be helpful elsewhere, I have watched my bike die on top of a rather shitty week all round, getting tut tutted by a large man on a childs bike who shits in gardens may well tip me over the edge  ____________________ Pitslayer wrote "it could be Ndubz.....ruining this once great place with donkey gobbling loafer knobbing "music".
silky666 wrote "In my eyes, when you shake cocks with the devil, you may as well go for the full reach around"
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Oh that old chestnut .... well since your being so nice ... you won't be putting yourself in that position in a hurry ....
And my bike rocks ... even when broke in a garage ...  ____________________ miketovey wrote: I am not a teenage emo with "girl problems", just a 29 year old loser.
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| slyrob wrote: | he didn't indicate until he moved, |
As a person who still remembers his bus rides to school I still remember in acute detail lots of occasions and oddities.
I know for a fact just by looking at my drivers, that they accelorate, close door, indicate, then look at mirrors and then where they are going.
Don't get me wrong though, just like computers process data, i'm not being stereo-typical about bus drivers  ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k. |
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I don't see anything wrong in what you did, if it wasn't you it could have just as easily been someone on a push bike, the bus driver should have checked properly.
In terms of legal stuff White Dalton send me tons of leaflets about no win no fee bike claims; I can't say how good they are, but their testimonials page seems to speak for them. ____________________ Past: 55 Sym Jet, 91 ZZR250, 03 NSR125R. Present: 97 ER-5.
https://www.nsr125.co.uk - NSR Owners forum. |
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| hellkat wrote: | I don't see anything wrong with your positioning?
I do that all the time.
Did the bus indicate before he pulled out? |
another london Biker, and if we didn't filter we would get no where.
I don't seee what you did was wrong ..the bus was stationary as you overtook (albeit) filtering between traffic.
very common to have to pass buses, as bus lanes still start/stop suddenly and some do exclude motorcycles.
I would normally prefer to be in lane 2 (outside ) to overtake / pass stationary traffic , but have been in this position many times.
Bus driver by your accounts Signalled, manouvered THEN Mirrored.
naughty, naughty,
(if it had been a cycle may have been much more serious, so they HAVE to check, even if it says 'let the bus go first' )
would suggest that a big company will drag itself to settlement with one individual,
but get a pro dealing with it (no win no fee) and in a clear cut case they will fold....( most likely..)
all the best , fingers crossed..  ____________________ Previous bikes: Suzuki GT250A / Yamaha DT125 / NTV Honda 650 // currently Suzuki RF900 |
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