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 rac3r World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 21:47 - 18 Dec 2010 Post subject: RWD Snow advice |
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My dad wants to use his car which is rear wheel drive so any advice on driving one in the snow?
Most of the time it's rubbish and the wheels just spin  ____________________ Bikes : 2006 CBR125R - 2004 Monster 620ie - 2004 ZX-6R B1H - 2005 Monster S2R 800 - 2011 Street Triple - 2009 Streetfighter 1098 - 2014 ZX-6R 636
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Couple of sacks of cement in the boot and take off in second. when she slews ( she will ) steer into it. ____________________ Bikers make great organ donors, get 115 on your licence today.
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And if it's an auto don't put it in D, my next door neighbour was spinning his wheels on his 5 series for about ten mins, until I heard his son shout "Take it out of D and put it in second u bloody idiot" lol he quickly managed to pull away ____________________ Bikes owned :- 2001 nsr125, 1999 zx6r, 2006 yzf-r1, 2009 xmax 250, 2012 yzf-r1, 2015 MT-07
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What car are we talking about here?
Older cars like my old BMW (F reg) and my mates old merc (G reg) use thinner tyres than modern cars (205's on mine) and were fine really with some weight in the back and some air let out of the tyres. He did spin out once and parked the merc up after that, used his Sierra XR 4x4 then... The pussy, but then again mine has a limited slip diff
My winter tyres showed up just as the last of the snow melted round here |
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It's a Lexus GS300 the one before the current one. It does have a snow button but I doubt it does much. The GS is actually my mums, on his own car which is also rear wheel drive it seemed to work better with the TC off  ____________________ Bikes : 2006 CBR125R - 2004 Monster 620ie - 2004 ZX-6R B1H - 2005 Monster S2R 800 - 2011 Street Triple - 2009 Streetfighter 1098 - 2014 ZX-6R 636
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As mentioned, let some air out of the tyres (can go down as low as 10psi for slow speeds). Pump back up before getting on to clear/faster roads.
Or buy some autosocks. ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
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A thread about RWD cars which MarJay hasn't posted in?  |
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my merc wasnt exactly all over the place last year. only if i gave a generous amount of throttle.
i didnt do any extreme hills or anything though. just sheet ice and snow.
just drive as normal and slow down as you would on a bike on corners ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
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I don't think that counts when it's at home it hasn't moved . |
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If you need to turn around, just pull the handbrake and one turn to the right.
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| Kickstart wrote: | That won't help on pretty much all autos. It just stops it changing into a gear higher than 2nd, doesn't stop it setting off in 1st.
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Makes you wonder the origins of such stories, essentially nothing changed so why did it all of a sudden help, either it didn't and it's just bullcrap or the driver not only put it into "2" but also modified his use of the accelerator pedal.
I've read that lowering tyre pressures in the snow is actually counter productive and makes things worse. I once got stuck in my Volvo going up a hill, I had nothing else left to try so I lowered the tyre pressures, result was, it was worse, I now wasn't just wiggling side to side but was sat in one spot, wouldn't personally bother doing it to a car. What I would do is carry some old carpet or mats in the boot to throw under the wheels when you do get stuck, which you will at some point in a RWD.
It's very rare that you'd need to use 2nd, usually 1st and no throttle does the job, it's best to drive on fresh stuff on a hill too, the compacted snow is more slippery, or have 2 wheels on the compacted and mount the verge with 2, often the grass/mud under is frozen solid and lumpy and so gives a good grippy surface under the snow, got me up plenty of hills. Lastly, don't reverse, the gearing is so low that it's very hard not to spin up. |
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| Phoenix wrote: | I've read that lowering tyre pressures in the snow is actually counter productive and makes things worse. I once got stuck in my Volvo going up a hill, I had nothing else left to try so I lowered the tyre pressures, result was, it was worse, I now wasn't just wiggling side to side but was sat in one spot, wouldn't personally bother doing it to a car. |
lowering the tyre pressure can help on cars with wide tyres.. the idea being that you have two ways of getting traction on snow/ice, float over it or cut through it.
if you have thin tyres with aggressive tread you can try to cut down through the slick stuff to get grip
with wide tyres or ones that don't have a cutting tread you have to float over the top of the ice by applying less power than it takes to spin the wheels, low tyre pressure in that situation can help because you have a bigger contact patch, however as soon as you spin up the wheels you're still not going anywhere
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 292 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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