HID Kits

[rac3r]

I was thinking about doing some useful mods to my bike like the Tutoro oiler like Titz mentioned and also HID's.

At the moment I have those fake HID bulbs off ebay which are OK surprisingly. My question is how hard are they to fit? What's involved? Also those of you that have them what do you think?

I'd like to install the projectors too but it involves baking the headlight
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[cb1rocket]

I just got a kit off ebay from china so I'm down the same route of waiting to fit them but mine is the H4 type with pants more wiring! Its the Hi/Lo version.

Probably end up using them on a CG rather than my CB1.

Not used a TUTORO but I have used a loobman to good effect and they do work.

[dragstaar]

I've got a HID kit for my Bandit which I ordered on Ebay. if you contact them and ask them to send it without the box they'll reduce postage. And get them from a UK seller, you have far better communication.

HID's are the bees knees. I don't know how i did night riding without them.

Few things to remember, Fitting a conversion kit (a retro fit) is illegal, HIDs are friggin' bright so need to be aimed properly so as not to blind people. This is why you need the whole headlight unit with auto-levelling etc, which is considerably more expensive. If you do get HIDs, then just make sure they're aimed properly.

Heres the legal shebang if you want https://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

They are dead easy to fit. You literally have a circuit.


The circuit isn't massively clear, but you have the HID bulb which connects to a transformer/ballast, which supplies the 12,000volts needed to ignite the bulb. The bulb will then settle at a much lower power consuption within a minute or so. There will be a plug from the ballast in which to connect the bike's bulb connector. So treat the ENTIRE HID unit (wires, everything) as a bulb, and just plug it in!

Your next thing to consider, are the temperature of the Bulbs. Anything up to 4300k are yellowy, and get brighter as you go up. 4300k is the brightest bulb, and is pure white.

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n521/dragstaar/hid.jpg

Anything higher than 4300k gets dimmer again, but has a bluey tint. I have 6000k because they are bright enough, and they have that tart's blue

HID bulbs have no filament, they create an arc of light by igniting the Xenon gas. This requires a huge amount of power, which the Ballast provides, then settles, and uses less power than a standard halogen bulb.

The hardest part is finding somehwere to mount the ballast. I advise getting the slimline ballast (well worth it for the extra fiver or so) as this widens your options for mounting. Good velcro will easily hold it in place.

[rac3r]

Cool. A couple of questions: my bike has low beam on the left and high on the right, do I need a full kit of 2? Also is it just plug and play then? Difficulty out of 10?

Thanks
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[dragstaar]

Yup, same as mine. that makes it so much easier.

Don't fit a HID to your main beam. It doesnt work well. Because you'll use your main beam for flashing etc, it'll kill your battery. it'll draw 12,000v every time you hit that passing light. Stick to just the dipped beam. Trust me, its bright enough

Fitting, honestly, is decievingly daunting. It seems like a complicated task, but its piss easy. When you get the kit, put it together indoors. I'd be very worried about the state of your mental health if this took more than 3 minutes, as in actually, if you take more than 180seconds putting it together, you need to see a doctor. Its that easy. (IF, you get the better quality plug connector ones. most of them are, anyway). all you do is clip the wires together in a logical order (they wont fit any other way lol).

Once you've done this, everything will be connected to something, other than one plug, which goes into your headlight connector. (this is why you must buy the correct one, i.e. h4, h7, 9006 etc)

The hardest part is figuring out where to shove the ballast. I have a fairing on my bike, so i stick it in there, nice and dry in there too, but not too near anything hot. Then i just wire the calbes along the frame, and connect it up.

What i advise, is before sticking it in, just keep everything out, and just connect it, to see if it works!

I'd say difficulty: 1. Seriously

Effort: 4, because you need to figure out a suitable spot, and maybe take fairings off.

[rac3r]

Thank you very much!

Reading that link you gave means they're not strictly legal are they? But I can't see you getting done unless they're aimed stupidly
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[The Tot]

Rac3r, do a search post for HID's under my name and there's some useful info there. I gave Dragstaar some advice on his, my suggestion is to use the same seller as us - hids direct off ebay.

They're NOT legal but they are VERY effective in winter and low light conditions. It's literally plug in and play if you're installing H7's.

4300K is ample. 6000K was bling enough for my old ninja. Went for 4300K on the blade because I wanted crystal white light.

My Osram Night Racers are those 90% jobbies (filament bulb) and i would say they're about 3800K because whilst it MAY look silvery compared to normal filament bulbs, they are still yellow by comparison to even 4300K's! Stick one of these as your high/main beam and you're laughing - very long & strong beam.
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[weasley]

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Hi

While HIDs are technically regarded as illegal now, it seems that next year the MOT is being changed to make having the dodgy conversions being an automatic failure (and doing the job properly would mean self leveling, self cleaning system and all the appropriate markings on the light).

All the best

Keith
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[N cee thirty]

fml,when they bringing this in keith ?
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[N cee thirty]

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i ment when exactly ?

jan 1st 00.00? D:
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[rac3r]

I might have to ask the MOT dude at work and see what he says
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Seems to be due in time for 2012. Whether that is 1st Jan 2012 or some times earlier I have no idea.

Page 8 of this has a brief note:-

https://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2048%20-%20Oct%202010.pdf

HID kits will come under 'headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices"

All the best

Keith
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[dragstaar]

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[N cee thirty]

whats the actual regulations for HIDS atm ? to pass the MOT
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[dragstaar]

At the moment the beam needs to fall within the set guidelines, must not be over 6000k in temp. And when retro fitting them (most new BMWs come with them factory fitted, these are ok) you can't use a conversion kit, you need the whole shebang. Namely, whole headlight unit with projectors and autolevelling etc etc. Its all on the link above

[yandy_yay]

well i've had HID since i got the bike, was nearly the first mod i did, but i didn't touch the exsisting wiring so when it comes to MOT i just pop the lamp out cable-tie the wires out the way, stick a normal H$ bulb in, and pull the fuse for the HID balast box. they aint never said anything about it soon as i've got the green ticket i just pop the hid lamp back in jobs a good un.
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[N cee thirty]

hmm,wonder if my local MOT place would give a shit,the guy tried wheelying ma cg last time round
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