No more mod 1 and mod 2

[kingsknight]

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/December/dec2010-off-road-test-scrapped/


That is a nice way to spend £77million......
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[N cee thirty]

typical

they should just leave it the fuck alone and just bring the old test back
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[kingsknight]

What a waste of £77million which could of been spent on our schools or the NHS. I did MOD 1 and it was simple. If you cannot swerve at 31mph, You shouldn't be on the road.

On a bike you are a moving target! It's a good thing to show you know how to handle your bike at speed!
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[HD]

Oh well. At least it means I only have to pay for one test
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[N cee thirty]

still not coming in untill the end of next year ,least a few of my mates won't be put off by it now
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[MarJay]

I think this is a great sign for the new government. This dual test white elephant was a method for the previous government to get bikes off of the road. Make the test hard to do, make it impossible to find a safe place to do the off road test and less people will get bike licenses.

I think this is a victory for common sense, and a damning indictment of the wasteage the previous government put our country through.

Just to clue people in, many road safety experts said the swerve test at 31mph was fine in the dry, but dangerous in the wet. A few test candidates actually seriously injured themselves trying to do this part of the test. Why do it at 31mph anyway? The speed limit in town is 30mph. The reason they chose 30mph is it is exactly 50kph which is the speed they perform this maneuvre at in Europe. However, in Europe they can do it on the road, but they can't in the UK.

It was all an underhanded method of improving road safety statistics by getting bikes off of the road. And I for one am glad its gone.
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[c-m]

[The999Kid]

[Rogerborg]

Mod 1 test figures.

There are about 5150 Mod 1 tests sat per month. Assuming Mod 1 runs to December 2011 at that rate - although I'd bet it's less now - that'll be just 169950 tests in all, at a cost of £453 per test, just based on the £77 million infrastructure costs.

Still, you can't put a price on safety.

Did I mention that 836 people will have been injured in Mod 1 tests during its lifetime, compared to (from another FOI) almost none in on-road tests?

The thing is, I quite liked Mod 1. It split the test up, and took some of the pressure off the (expensive) Mod 2 part. But it was crappy for anyone living any distance from the test centre, and the rigid 50kph limit was pig ignorantly enforced and demonstrably hazardous.

The laugh is that we'll have 2012 to get used to the new-new tests - doubtless while some jobsworth rats us out to the EU over not being strictly in compliance with the 2nd Driving License Directive - then come January 2013, WHAMMO, it'll be all change again to the 3rd Directive licensing regime.

[MonkeyKnuckle]

I know someone who broke their shoulder after coming off in the rain on their MOD 1.

Looks like they are going back to pretty much the same as it was before.
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[Paxovasa]

Due to it been in MCN, I will wait until it happens
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[c-m]

[The Artist]

No one else seen that this is MCN not the actual news?

EDIT: Apart from paxavosa

[Paxovasa]

[pinkyfloyd]

[MarJay]

No, its on the MAG website as well.

https://www.mag-uk.org/en/news
Very first link on that page. They are doing a ministerial review of the changes to the test, and the first few lines of this say something like "The motorcycle test is under review because it has been decided to remove the off road portion of the test and just have an on road test".

I'm paraphrasing but you get the idea.
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[iooi]

[tk338]

To be fair the failing the 'swerve test' was probably too many people treating it as a swerve... I did it twice (Failed first time for locking my brake), and it was more approach the cones at an angle and it was a straight line through... Never was any swerving done at all by me in the test... On the public roads however I have had too several times, at similar speeds too

[MarJay]

[Pernig]

[james1988]

Although I slate the IAM at times I really do think that the L test should be very similar to what you have to do on the IAM drive. If it covered the drive as a whole and you show a good enough standard then you should be given your license as opposed to a couple of lines in a few boxes, which to be fair mean absolutely fuck all after you have left the test centre. What really gets my back up is the attitude of "fake it until you make it", if the general public actually took care in their driving the I think we would see a reduction in accidents.

A friend of mine passed his test 3 weeks go (car), he had 10 minors. Now as far as I'm concerned that's 7 to many, with the current test maybe restricting it to 3 minors would be a far better way of routing out those that are a disaster waiting to happen, this would hopefully then force driving and riding instructors to step up their tuition instead of just sending people through in the hope that they pass when in actual fact the majority of candidates are clueless.

To be fair I had some pretty good tuition before I was put in for my test (was trained to IAM standard) so maybe my whinging is a little unfair but anyway I hope you get my point.

James

[Anthony192]

I'm glad I've done it and don't have to think about tests any more. I found mod 1 piss easy personally.

Anyway seems to be quite a bit of truth to this been reported on quite a few different websites.

Found a link to the full report here;
https://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/cyclingandmotorcycling/testreview
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[Rogerborg]

If a "consultation" contains a question, it usually means they've already decided to implement it.

I'm willing to accept that this is a genuine attempt to deal with the sharp reduction in the number of tests post Mod 1, and the consequences for the motorcycle industry.

More bikers means more bikes on the road and in the dealers, so anything that makes it easier and cheaper for people to get started is good with me.

[multijoy]

The report linked above suggests that whilst they're working towards a 'single test event' (!), they're thinking of two approaches.

The first is that the off-road 'mod 1' is essentially retained, but done as part of pre-test training, either by DSA examiners going to site (pff, not a hope!) or delegating to training schools, and retaining the use of the current test centres.

The second is that they incorporate it into the practical. Problem there is they have to develop a set of manoeuvres that can be legally done on the road. The unwritten subtext is 'if we can do it with as little legislation as possible!'.

I'm not a trainer, but the first approach seems to be the most sensible, if only because it means less time at the tender mercies of the DSA, although they would need to be more rigorous with enforcement of standards then they currently are with the CBT.

I did the single part test, and the bit that made me clench was the thought of losing £80 for dabbing my foot on the u-turn! Hopefully they can keep that aspect out of whatever test comes from this.
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