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spankydean
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 02 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 02 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
12" sticker eh?

Maybe that's just to make up for the lack of other inches.....

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H8tr8UK
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
spankydean wrote:
I was just gonna post a defence of the poor guy trying to get support for his gang.... Then I took the time to check out the website. No offence to anyone but it does look a bit fake gansterish don't it?

I love how online forums degenerate into this sort of thing though i really love the way if you don't meet with half the weird people who seem to live online you ain't down with it!!

Mr. Green


I don't think they are a gang but a group of bloaks who get together in the US and have a good time without trouble you wankers! Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah but still...

They look gay...

And sad...
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joormotha
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PostPosted: 01:41 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Greetings from the west coast. Don’t want to flame, just wanted to invite people who had such negative things to say about our club to actually take the time and take a look our site. Maybe then you would realize that MSR is not a “gang”, but a community of bikers that want something more than just a hang out on an online forum. Our club is about fraternity, showing true passion for motorcycle riding, and helping fellow bikers in need. It’s a club without bullshit politics and drama. I have never been to the UK, so I do not understand such negative attitudes and prejudices. We’re not Biker Boyz imitators; our club has been founded way before the movie came out. Some our members have actually been on the set of the movie as extras.

The large stickers actually have a practical application. Sport bikes are extremely popular here in southern California. Our group attends weekly gatherings where hundreds of bikes are present. It takes a 12” sticker to find your friends when you’re lost in a large group like that. Anyway, thanks for reading.
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Tarmacsurfer
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good post joormotha, even if a decidedly odd screen name Shocked

Just a word of advice though, to anyone intending to found a patch wearing club in the UK, and that's check out your local area. Clubs who wear colours/patches can quite often be rather territorial. It's all rather silly but I have seen a few rucks start due to people wearing patches in the wrong areas. Call me a twat if you like, but this is simply intended as a friendly warning.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
joormotha wrote:
Maybe then you would realize that MSR is not a “gang”,


dynamite wrote:
I have friend in usa who have a gang called the Mayhem Street Riders

You guys need to sort out and decide if it is a gang, or if isn't. Is rather confusing to be told one fact, and then told the complete opposite by two people who run the gang or whatever you want to call it.

I wish you luck with starting out your gang thing, but the best way to go about it is not to go around existing communities and start trying to persuade people to come and join your gang.

So basically you're saying it is a community of friends. That means you're going around asking people if they will be your friends. Laughing Laughing

You will find if you go along to local bike places you'll find people there who are friendly, although when you start asking them to join your gang and to buy stickers to put on their bikes you might suddenly find they no longer are interested in knowing you.

This whole idea of "join my gang, buy our stickers and be my friend!" is quite amusing, as I don't expect you'll get many takers.

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H8tr8UK
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
This whole thread would be summed up best by saying.

LOST IN TRANSLATION! Karma

Stay up!
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headlamp
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
H8tr8UK wrote:
This whole thread would be summed up best by saying.

LOST IN TRANSLATION! Karma

Stay up!


No, not quite. However, the attempt to 'recruit' members for the UK arm of the club from BCF is fatally flawed, hence the reaction.

There are cultural differences between Americans and us Brits. Whilst we all part of BCF we don't neccesarily feel we have to 'belong' to it like a fraternity, which is instilled in American culture. We dip in, dip out, go on rideouts (or not), meet other members (hey, even recruit them!!), but the idea that we have to part of a 'firm' or 'gang' or we are 'homey's' is an anathema to us.

Equally the way the Mayhem Street riders to get members of BCF to join is a bit hamfisted. It would appear the gang in the US started with a load of mates with bikes getting together and going from there. That's the way to do it here and not go to popular interest-led forums and offer stickers.

I wish you luck with your recruitment drive, and thanks, but no thanks
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joormotha
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
You guys need to sort out and decide if it is a gang, or if isn't. Is rather confusing to be told one fact, and then told the complete opposite by two people who run the gang or whatever you want to call it.


Ok, maybe I haven't expressed myself clearly. Mayhem is not a gang. The whole "gang" thing is just a bad choice of words on Dynamite's part.

Ste wrote:
I wish you luck with starting out your gang thing, but the best way to go about it is not to go around existing communities and start trying to persuade people to come and join your gang.


We're not persuading, just inviting.

Ste wrote:
So basically you're saying it is a community of friends. That means you're going around asking people if they will be your friends. Laughing Laughing


No, by being a member of the club you have the power of getting enough heads together to organize events such as group rides, BBQ's, bike washes, stunt shows, etc. You also have the ability to ask for sposorship and discounts from local shops. You have people around you that will be willing to help out when you crash your bike. The element of fraternity comes naturally. I find that being a member on a non-club type of forum, people are not as helpful. You may get a lot of good information, but trying to find someone to help wrenching on your bike is a lot harder. Perhaps the way things are on your side of the Atlantic are different.

Ste wrote:
You will find if you go along to local bike places you'll find people there who are friendly, although when you start asking them to join your gang and to buy stickers to put on their bikes you might suddenly find they no longer are interested in knowing you.


The point of Mayhem is not to have anything mandatory. Our meetings are "highly encouraged" but you don't get booted even if you don't show up for months. There are no dues, everything is donation based. The reality is that you have to pay up if you want something, but you get to choose what your money goes towards to. You don't have to have a large sticker on your windscreen. My bike has ones on the bike's tail and helmet.

Ste wrote:
This whole idea of "join my gang, buy our stickers and be my friend!" is quite amusing, as I don't expect you'll get many takers.

Laughing Laughing Laughing


The only reason why I'm even bothering to post here, is because of the misconceptions about our club. Not trying to convince anybody to join, just don't want people making ill informed statements about us. The last thing I want is people portaying me and my friends as gangsters. Perhaps all of this is truly getting "lost in translation"
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Don't worry about it dude, some people get very possessive about what they perceive as people coming and trying to 'steal' members.

The majority of us aren't bothered, and most of the comments should be taken with a pinch of salt.

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byke95
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
In some sense of the word we are a "gang" here at BCF. The words gang and group both describe people from one place going somewhere to do something as a collective (in fact, writing that sentence without using one of those words is difficult!).

In all honesty, if you read all of the posts, some of the BCF members very guilty of acting like a "gang". Some of the posts are very territorial - I actually see it quite a lot, particularly when it comes to Americans....

As for my opinion - the word "gang" does bring some negatives with it, and having a sticker on your bike doesn't always go down well in good old blighty (I'm guessing if Mayhem did take off it would be a good way for Mr Plod to pull you over and do you for every fault he could find).

Anyways, this is my Penny Coin Penny Coin

Bottom line is that we all like it here at BCF, I guess people want it to stay like that and therefore get protective...
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joormotha
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bendy wrote:
Don't worry about it dude, some people get very possessive about what they perceive as people coming and trying to 'steal' members.

The majority of us aren't bothered, and most of the comments should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Karma


yeah, I hear ya. I don't think being a Mayhem and BFC member are mutually exclusive. Personally, I'm a member on SoCalSportbikes.com, R6Messagenet.com, CBRWorld.net, and a buch of other forums where I post on a regular basis. I ride with a lot of people from SoCalSportbikes. No one is trying to steal members from this board Laughing

byke95 wrote:
In some sense of the word we are a "gang" here at BCF. The words gang and group both describe people from one place going somewhere to do something as a collective (in fact, writing that sentence without using one of those words is difficult!).

In all honesty, if you read all of the posts, some of the BCF members very guilty of acting like a "gang". Some of the posts are very territorial - I actually see it quite a lot, particularly when it comes to Americans....

As for my opinion - the word "gang" does bring some negatives with it, and having a sticker on your bike doesn't always go down well in good old blighty (I'm guessing if Mayhem did take off it would be a good way for Mr Plod to pull you over and do you for every fault he could find).

Anyways, this is my

Bottom line is that we all like it here at BCF, I guess people want it to stay like that and therefore get protective...


Ya'll just hate us American's. Is it because we have shitty beer? Laughing

But seriously, I understand how europeans feel about all things "American." I lived in Poland for 8 years, so I've seen things from the other side of the Atlantic. I guess we're not really promoting an entity, but an idea. This doesn't conflict with other commitments that people have.
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rsooty
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
And to finalize this thread... If you didn't want to join Mayhem, you didn't have to click on the link. Simple really? I'm sure people come online to look at more websites then just BCF though.

Sooty Mr. Green
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Ste
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
rsooty wrote:
If you didn't want to join Mayhem, you didn't have to click on the link.

I clicked the the link as I was interested to see what it was, that does not mean I activly want to join, it just means I am interested as I guess it probably the same with a lot of people.

Well hope it goes well and works. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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dynamite
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PostPosted: 03:53 - 10 Jul 2004    Post subject: mayhem Reply with quote
I do agree i maybe shouldn't have used the word gang but if you look in the dictionary the word gang can mean "A group of people who associate regularly on a social basis"

i wasn't trying to steal people only looking for people ideally local to me to ride with as its more fun as a group and i never said you had to buy a sticker i was just getting all the facts out in the open.

so if you fancy it get in touch with me,if you don't why bother posting

so lets leave it at that!

Matt

oh yeah cheers you the USA Mayhem for posting support. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:25 - 10 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you remember HYB was formed from BCF Smile. They're just another bunch of lads brought together by their love of motorcycling - amongst other things Smile.

PS: No i'm not very active there anymore Razz

At the end of the day, the more organised motorcycle groups can only be a good thing for reasons that I understand but can't put into words. Something about strength of numbers etc..
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mayhem1
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Greeting from Los Angeles, Ca.. Respect to all who gave it..

as for the rest... who seem pretty brave behind the keyboard.. understand that when insults get personal, and name calling turns into violence, we are only a flight away.. and we will be more than happy to accomodate any frustrations u have to resolve.. in any manner u so desire. I'm a man of very few words. Have some respect and excercise the maturity you boast of.

We are not in need of any recruits.. The members of the UK were in search of others to ride with.. Let it be.

Make no mistake... there are consequences for statements that are made in ignorance or haste. Hopefully this has all been resolved... i wish u all the best..

If ANY OF YOU find yourselves in the states.. in california.. call us up.. and we will make sure that you are taken care of.. Thats the point of networking. You will always need someone, someday.

Enough of that bull shit.. ride your bikes.. do some stunts.. speed down the road or chat in the carpark.. have fun and stop being uptight.. life is short.. then u die..

Dynamite, Burney, Beefee.. we are a phone call away..
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byke95
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
All in all, I think that any bike club that supports biking and bikers alike is a good idea. Just be careful with the way you use the word gang!

As for meeting up in California, thanks for the invite - it must be nice not to have to worry about rain!

All the best

Phil

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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
mayhem1 wrote:
as for the rest... who seem pretty brave behind the keyboard.. understand that when insults get personal, and name calling turns into violence, we are only a flight away.. and we will be more than happy to accomodate any frustrations u have to resolve.. in any manner u so desire. I'm a man of very few words. Have some respect and excercise the maturity you boast of.


In that case please PM Korn and arrange for you to send 2000 flight tickets to the US Thumbs Up (Make mine from Scotland)

Great attitude from someone who is not in a 'gang' and trying to make 'friends' - what you have said sounds like talk from someone in a 'gang' to me Rolling Eyes

Any else picking up that 'gang' vibe?
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Annabella
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
I actually read Mayhem's post more as a friendly invite rather than a "come fight us" type, sorry Acid.


They certainly appear to be a good group of guys, and I wish the UK members the best of luck.

As Mayhem said, get out there, ride, enjoy life, quit bickering. If you don't want to join them, then don't bother commenting.


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byke95
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Any else picking up that 'gang' vibe?


I see where you're coming from AcidBrunz, his post could be seen as being threatening.

I chose to see it more as someone who is trying to be nice without loosing face resulting in a 'bite me and I'll bite back, but lets keep the peace' kind of post.

Either way, a lot of BCFers gave as good as they got so all is good Karma
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andrew wrote:
Oh oh oh, where do I sign? Seriously mate what are you on about starting your own 'chapter'. Are you trying to be like another famous biker gang? LOL I'd rather get a sticker saying I'm a muppet and put it on the bike. Thumbs Down


There is already a bike club in the UK called the Muppets, and in order to join you would have to a one of the Staffordshire (I think) armed response unit.

I find the response to the invitation to consider joining a club rather bizarre. I personally have no desire to be in a club, but I have friends in many clubs, most of whom are dedicated to the art of partying hard and raising money for charity. Giving yourselves a name and a sticker for identification does not merit the wrath that has been thrown at the gentleman who suggested it.

It is possible to be a BCF member as well as a member of a bike club or organisation. I am a member of the BMF and MAG and go to meetings and rideouts with both of these organisations, as well as a contributor to this forum and to Bikersweb. None of these organisations are mutually exclusive.

Just because you personally do not wish to join a club does not make the idea of the club wrong.

Some of the contributors to this thread have gone down in my estimation due to their lack of tolerance.

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PostPosted: 09:53 - 04 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think I'll just shut up Smile *burp*
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