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vindice
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 29 Dec 2010    Post subject: Germany Reply with quote

Hi all. Following our all-singing, all-dancing, all-exploding tour of Scotland by flaming suzuki we're planning next year. Somehow, we've ended up planning two holidays Smile

We're looking at Germany for the start of the school holidays, end of July/start of August. Sailing from Hull to Rotterdam and then... well, who knows?

Who's been to Germany? Where's good to go, what's good to look at? We're probably going for seven nights, including crossings, so five days touring including a rest day somewhere. Any suggestions gratefully appreciated as neither of us has been there before - just not the Nurburgring.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 29 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed exploring down the Rhine valley, then through the Black forest.
Southern Germany is much like nearby Switzerland and Austria, very scenic.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 29 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The south of Germany is very nice bavaria etc, the north is quite plain and spread out, though the architecture of the old towns is quite nice. Its obviously where the big citites are like Hamburg and Berlin.

The bavarin hills and mounting are beautiful but its a bit of an extra trek.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 29 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black forest. Highly recommended. ride the B500. Black forest High Road. Bloody Marvellous.

If you head for the Tyrol after, you won't go wrong. Fuel is cheaper in Austria. And there you have the Grossglockner and Nockhalmstrasse. both: fantastic 'private' roads.

If time allows pop over to the Dolomites. which are next door.

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PostPosted: 01:32 - 30 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

motobiker wrote:
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Passo di sella, some good roads around here and the mountains really have some of the weirdest shapes, did them this year and keep meaning to do a write up, the longer I leave it the harder it is to remember my route.

With only 5 days touring and one of those a rest day there's no way he can make it to the Dolomites unless he just roars through Germany on the motorway without seeing a thing. Don't even attempt it, just stick to Germany.

To be absolutely honest, while Germany has never been a place I intended to explore on any of my trips I always end up riding through it for long periods of time, usually on the trip back. No matter how interesting I try to make the routes I find it very uninteresting scenery wise, it's totally different down near the Austrian border but that's a long way to go. The rest of Germany to me feels very much like Northern France, very 'meh'.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 30 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, im currently living in southern germany - bavaria. right near the castle from chitty chitty bang bang.

Roads are fantastic, scenery is fantastic... Food + Beer is 100x better than england!

Let me know where your thinking of and ill help you out.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 30 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you consider a good daily mileage? Personally, with just two day traveling I'd aim for somewhere around Cochem on the first day and then either follow the river Moselle towards Luxembourg or ride towards Boppard and follow the Rhein.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 30 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes can't disagree with the Black Forest, very nice & not too far. But as someone else has mentioned, the Dolomites are not so far, and there are some blinding roads. Best day's biking I've ever done around Passo di Sella, Campolongo etc. Recommended. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 30 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

motobiker wrote:
Black forest. Highly recommended. ride the B500. Black forest High Road. Bloody Marvellous.

If you head for the Tyrol after, you won't go wrong. Fuel is cheaper in Austria. And there you have the Grossglockner and Nockhalmstrasse. both: fantastic 'private' roads.

If time allows pop over to the Dolomites. which are next door.



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PostPosted: 13:17 - 30 Dec 2010    Post subject: biker hotel harz Reply with quote

i'm living in berlin currently and a mate stopped off in the harz mountains at the end of the summer on his way over to visit me.. sounded great.. would like to make it there myself in 2011. the hotel is run by an english guy who's been living in germany for years. safe travels.

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PostPosted: 11:58 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another suggestion as time is limited. head for Luxembourg which is cheap.. and from there you have rather a lot of choices close by.. with a lot of very nice roads. And places to visit: Bitburg and Trier are both worthwhile not to mention the Nurburgring.

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PostPosted: 18:15 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have travelled down through the Black Forest to Austria and also across to Berlin via Mohnessee (dam the Dambusters blew up).

Both trips we thoroughly enjoyed opurselves, Black Forest - some brilliant roads and plenty of campsites along the Mosel, Berlin a city with lots to see if you are interested in history.

Cochem is to be recommended, near the Ring, on the Mosel and beautiful scenery.

Germany can be whatever type of holiday you want it to be, all you have to do is work out what you want to do and plan accordingly.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for the Black Forest, did it on a Beemer 100 over 25 years ago, great scenery, roads, food & drink.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a very biker friendly place too.
In fact most people at least outside the big towns seem very polite and friendly - like genuinely interested in where you are going, and eager to suggest good places to visit and problems to avoid.

I arrived in a small place somewhere near Lake Constance, later than planned and it was almost dark.
I asked some 'chavvy' scooter boys hanging around outside the shops if there was a campsite nearby and they insisted on riding ahead to lead me too it.
It was only half a mile but a nice thing to do.
It was hard to find as it was down a small lane but right on the water's edge, with stunning views across to the Swiss mountains next morning.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 01 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with Pheonix, I always find when touring the days disappear fast, with 5 days you are cutting it fine.

I find Germany a bit dull, its the most like england of anywhere i've been in europe, and the weather has never been kind to me there.

I went down to strasbourg one year and then through the black forest, it is nice. Southern Germany is much better than northern imo.

Nothern Germany is alright if its sunny, the road from belguim to the nurburgring was great, if you're into that sort of thing you could quite easily kill 5 days just going to the ring and back and touring belguim/amsterdam or a bit of france.

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PostPosted: 18:22 - 01 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of good info in this thread, cheers guys. Me and some mates are going next year, mostly around the south of the country (but stopping off at the nurburgring of course Wink )
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 01 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all; lots of food for thought. We've got six months or so to plan it, and a trip to Scotland before hand, but I reckon Nuremberg and the Black Forest is looking like a good bet.
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PostPosted: 04:35 - 02 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you mean Nurberg as Nuremberg is over 200 miles away from the Ring and is near the border of the Czech Republic.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 02 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. Nuremberg. We have zero interest in visiting the ring.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 02 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, must admit I toyed with the idea of going to nuremberg in 2009, but my plans were altered somewhat when it was decided I wasn't going alone.

wherever you go you will enjoy it, just take loads of pics and do a good write up when you get back Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 08 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for Cochem. Just follow the Mosel and you can't go wrong. Plenty of hairpin practice too!
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