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PostPosted: 10:56 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: touring europe in early september first trip!!!help!!! Reply with quote

me and three of my mates are heading to europe for two weeks in september its all our first time riding anywhere other than local as such so has anyone got advise.
we are all camping as its cheap and we have the gear.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plan a route first, probably a nice circle.

France-Belgium-Germany-Switzerland-Back into France?

Or maybe go into Italy and around the back of the Alps into Southern France.

Get paniers or decent luggage systems and decent tents etc. Nothing worse than waking up in a damp tent Sad

You don't need a sat nav (i didn't have one) but they are usefull for finding hotels and campsites!

I went through France and into Switzerland last Sept and the weather was great, high in the alps it was pretty cold though even with the sun out!

I'd go by Eurotunnel, it's more exspensive but alot faster and very little chance of the bike falling over, plus i came back at 3am and still got the tunnel home xD with only a 30minute wait!

Most of all enjoy yourself and take it easy learning to ride on the other side of the road!
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am planning the same thing for the summer 2 up with the girlfriend on the back and was planning the France-Belgium-Germany-Switzerland-Back into France route you were saying Devans.

200 miles per day with the odd day sight seeing? Sound feasable?

Keep us posted on the plans 11559

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PostPosted: 14:57 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people offer cautious advice when travelling around Europe but it really could not be any simpler since it's only a 30 minute ferry crossing and the only thing that is different is that you ride/drive on the right.

The main things to carry are:

Space for food and WATER while travelling (tank bag?)
Fewest sets of clothes as you can get away with and your motorbike gear.
Botch anything repair tools like mole grips and screwdrivers. Not hammers, that's dead weight; you can use a stone.
Something to sleep in or under; just as long as it keeps you warm and uses the least amount of space.

Try and keep the weight down because when you see your favourite corner on the South West of Spain, you will have corner that extra weight around those corners.

As soon as you plan to go somewhere, you are actually putting in a deadline and the more deadlines you put in, the less fun it is. It's nice however to find a hotel at the end of your day's riding; just make sure you don't plan the hotel so race there at the end of the evening.

What is the point of planning to ride through all those countries and rack up an expensive fuel bill just to see 2 or 3 towns where you do actually stop for more than one hour? You could do a 2 week tour in Normandy, France. Just go where everyone wants to go and actually see what's in the town.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd head for the Alps and hunt out some high passes.
Allow two easy days to get there.
I wouldn't worry about exact route planning when you can camp.
Half the fun is following your nose and getting slightly lost sometimes.

You could very easily stay mostly in France, there are some wonderful roads in the French Alps and adjacent areas.
Two weeks seems a long time but a common mistake is trying to see something of several countries and doing too many miles.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: touring europe in early september first trip!!!help!!! Reply with quote

11559 wrote:
me and three of my mates are heading to europe for two weeks in september its all our first time riding anywhere other than local as such so has anyone got advise.
we are all camping as its cheap and we have the gear.


Dave is that you? Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:29 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

HEYOOO

After a quick phone call, I can verify that OP is a good friend of mine and I am one of the three mates heading around Europe.

Route is as follows: Belgium - Amsterdam - Hamburg - Berlin - Prague - Stanzach - Lake Garda - Berne - through eastern France and up to Calais.

Bikes being taken are SV650, CBR600F, ER6F (my new baby) and my GS500 which I am giving to another mate so he can come along.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jealous! Sad I've wanted to do this for a couple of years. I'm shit at reading maps so I would probably take a sat nav, enter a destination and let it take me there avoiding motorways etc...
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

StevenF wrote:
Jealous! Sad I've wanted to do this for a couple of years. I'm shit at reading maps so I would probably take a sat nav, enter a destination and let it take me there avoiding motorways etc...


Haha well we're all members of the Scout Network so reading maps is second nature to us. It's also why we chose such a long route; we can cut it down if we need to but it'll be a big achievement for us if we get round in one piece.

We stayed in Stanzach last summer with the scouts and did/drank lots of crazy stuff, and the scenery was amazing. Can't wait to get back there!
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

StevenF wrote:
I'm shit at reading maps so I would probably take a sat nav, enter a destination and let it take me there avoiding motorways etc...


Do you just want to go somewhere specific or just touring? If so then I'd just ride around trying to use a map. Doesn't matter if you get lost as you have no-where particular to be. You can just ask people for a camp site. Then when you want to get home jump on motors as there easy to travel on.

I'd imagine avoiding motorways would result in boring a-road unless you head to the mountains.

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Haha well we're all members of the Scout Network so reading maps is second nature to us. It's also why we chose such a long route; we can cut it down if we need to but it'll be a big achievement for us if we get round in one piece.


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PostPosted: 21:10 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:

Manatee wrote:
Haha well we're all members of the Scout Network so reading maps is second nature to us. It's also why we chose such a long route; we can cut it down if we need to but it'll be a big achievement for us if we get round in one piece.


Been on the Gathering before? Clicky. See you there this Easter!


Haven't heard of that before as we're a relatively new Network unit, but that looks like a lot of fun and I'm keen on going so you can count on me being there at least Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:

Do you just want to go somewhere specific or just touring? If so then I'd just ride around trying to use a map. Doesn't matter if you get lost as you have no-where particular to be. You can just ask people for a camp site. Then when you want to get home jump on motors as there easy to travel on.

I'd imagine avoiding motorways would result in boring a-road unless you head to the mountains.


Only finding my way back Laughing If I were to do it I'd have the countries that I would want to visit and maybe certain places within those countries, but I wouldn't know what roads to take anyway. For me touring would be all about the scenery and nice roads Thumbs Up

A good idea would be looking at the Michelin Maps; they have roads with good scenery etc highlighted in a different colour.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manatee wrote:
Haven't heard of that before as we're a relatively new Network unit, but that looks like a lot of fun and I'm keen on going so you can count on me being there at least Very Happy


Normally around 600 people there, always stuff going and quite a few nice ladies too. I met my current girlfriend there. Thumbs Up Also the campsite is great, I've been going there since I was a Scout and I still think it is one of the best campsites I've been to, purely for it surroundings and slight 'backwardness'. I'd recommend strong pegs though Laughing

Sorry to hijack the thread! Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:
Manatee wrote:
Haven't heard of that before as we're a relatively new Network unit, but that looks like a lot of fun and I'm keen on going so you can count on me being there at least Very Happy


Normally around 600 people there, always stuff going and quite a few nice ladies too. I met my current girlfriend there. Thumbs Up Also the campsite is great, I've been going there since I was a Scout and I still think it is one of the best campsites I've been to, purely for it surroundings and slight 'backwardness'. I'd recommend strong pegs though Laughing

Sorry to hijack the thread! Laughing


Pah, thread hijacking this thread is acceptable, purely because I know 11559 and he's a giant kitten. With a bike.

I've sent an email to the address on the site asking for more info and I've put it to the guys/girls in the group to see if they want to come along. Hell, small BCF meetup even. At least 3 of us in our unit are members Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the people in my unit continually tell me to be careful on my bike. Maybe they have seen my riding or something. Thinking

There are few people in West Lancashire who also have bikes, although I've not yet had a chance to ride with them. May have to change that and start some Network motorbiking ride outs Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:
All the people in my unit continually tell me to be careful on my bike. Maybe they have seen my riding or something. Thinking

There are few people in West Lancashire who also have bikes, although I've not yet had a chance to ride with them. May have to change that and start some Network motorbiking ride outs Laughing


I could actually see this working pretty well. New outlaw motorcycle gang? Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this,

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=209414193245900737848.0004957dd158d427d961f&z=5



Three week's
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

John933 wrote:


Would be lovely to do, but I can only take two weeks off of work at once. :/
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

With two week's. Make you way to southen Spain. Cheap as chip's. Good weather. And camping is not that hard to find.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a bit route. 5500miles? It's about what i did a few years ago on the old GPZ but i took just over a month. Looks like fun though.
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Route is as follows: Belgium - Amsterdam - Hamburg - Berlin - Prague - Stanzach - Lake Garda - Berne - through eastern France and up to Calais. "

That will be awesome, easily do-able in 2 weeks with plently of time too chill out and relax Smile

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PostPosted: 00:58 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
John933 wrote:


That's a bit route. 5500miles? It's about what i did a few years ago on the old GPZ but i took just over a month. Looks like fun though.


I know what you are saying. But it's a suck it and see job. In the way of you must have an idea where you are going. And that's our's. You will see that coming home it wont take much to just pack up one day and make for the port if we are running out of time. But if time is with use. I would like to do it all.
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the chatter some really helpful stuff and although not all relevant to the thread topic its nice to know there is more than just three motorcycling networkers and i would love to come. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 02:03 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

11559 wrote:
thanks for all the chatter some really helpful stuff and although not all relevant to the thread topic its nice to know there is more than just three motorcycling networkers and i would love to come. Very Happy


Pah you expected on topic discussion? Laughing

Good bunch of people here el-11559. Stick around, I know where you live.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: first time Reply with quote

Justload your bikes up , and go .
no plan just go
thats what me and the missus did last time.
discovered all sorts of great places , and some shit ones as well.
but best holiday ever .
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