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PostPosted: 09:43 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Do articles like this put you off? Reply with quote

I have my Mod 2 in Feb after a delay due to snow and hope to pass first time.

While looking at the local papers' website yesturday, I saw this article:

https://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Biker-haunted-friend-s-fatal-crash/article-3107528-detail/article.html

Do horror stories like this put you off from wanting to ride? I know they were riding dangerously and I guess it is more of a reminder to ride safetly.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a lot puts me off riding. I had a good friend killed when a car pulled out in front of him. He was 21. I still ride. I try and be as careful as I can while I'm on the bike but if your numbers up theres not a lot you can do.

If I was to play it safe I probably wouldnt get out of bed. Many people die each year just by getting out of bed in the morning.

Best advice is not to think about the bad points of biking. Keep a positive attitude and pass mod 2. With the negative thoughts your more likely to be nervous and jittery during mod 2 and the examiners need to know your confident enough to be able to ride on the roads.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said that man!
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When a pedestrian gets run over it doesn't put me off walking.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When your time is up, your time is up!

I feel more alive when I am on my bikes than I do at any other time.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stories like that? No.

It was on a bad bend on a high risk road.

I know, I know "YOU WEREN'T THERE YOU DON'T KNOW!!!!!!ELEVEN!!!!!", but I have to infer from his friend's admission of guilt and the bike he was riding that they were probably hooning around and ran out of luck.

I'm not castigating him, and I do very much sympathise with all involved, but the lesson is: don't hoon around on a clearly marked bad bend on a well known dangerous road, and you don't have to worry about that kind of accident.

It's junctions that concern me. But you're not on a rehearsal. Hi vis, lights, own the lane, armour up (airbag gear?) and enjoy the years you've got.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No in the same way the story or an airplane crashing or stories of car crashes won't stop me flying or driving. If you pay attention to very bit of news and take it all to heart you would never leave your house.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
No in the same way the story or an airplane crashing or stories of car crashes won't stop me flying or driving. If you pay attention to very bit of news and take it all to heart you would never leave your house.


Remember that most accidents happen in the home, so going out is safer than staying in.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:


Remember that most accidents happen in the home, so going out is safer than staying in.


Thats why I've never been to paxo's home Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
chris-red wrote:
No in the same way the story or an airplane crashing or stories of car crashes won't stop me flying or driving. If you pay attention to very bit of news and take it all to heart you would never leave your house.


Remember that most accidents happen in the home, so going out is safer than staying in.


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I might as well just kill myself, I'm bound to die anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
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I might as well just kill myself, I'm bound to die anyway.


You cant die. You owe me a Mars bar

And a hand job Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite the contrary for me. I'll often watch bike crash vids on youtube when I start speeding up, just to remind myself what a pickle I could find myself in.

Also, they say that 90% of vehicle accidents take place within 4 miles of your home.... so I moved 9 miles away. Cool
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, biking is in my blood... I imagine the day I give up is when my body packs up completely. Lost countless friends to motorbike accidents, most were caused by other vehicles, so hardly the rider or the motorbike's fault!!! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst stuff like this does make me think, it's mostly myself that scares me enough to slow me down. I'm a much slower rider than I was...say 5 months ago, purely because I've run wide on a couple corners and thought "If there was oncoming traffic I'd be in hospital right now". In my defence...I was trying to keep up with sport bikes on an RXS100 at the time. Laughing

Riding bikes is dangerous, but it's also really rewarding and brilliant fun! I feel that the couple of days training I've had for my test has really taught me how to ride properly and a bit more safely, but a lot of it also comes down to realising you're riding like a prat and making a concious effort to stop.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
In my defence...I was trying to keep up with sport bikes on an RXS100 at the time. Laughing


LOLing aside, I believe that's a major cause of accidents. Always ride your own ride. Easy to say, difficult to do when you find yourself falling behind, granted.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
beechbone wrote:
In my defence...I was trying to keep up with sport bikes on an RXS100 at the time. Laughing


LOLing aside, I believe that's a major cause of accidents. Always ride your own ride. Easy to say, difficult to do when you find yourself falling behind, granted.

Yeah I'm much more inclined to ride at a speed I feel comfortable and in control now. Didn't have any accidents so I guess I can put it down to experience.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
but a lot of it also comes down to realising you're riding like a prat and making a concious effort to stop.


+1

I've started to worry recently because I've noticed I'm paying less attention to the road, I used to be 110% EVERYWHERE and now I'll have moments when I'm dipping down to concentration levels of a cager. Which is REALLY worrying me and I'm trying to revert back to my old ways! I think it's the monotony of commuting catching up with me.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've crashed at some fair speeds, not overly fast but enough for some serious thoughts going into my head afterwards, but i still ride!

The reason? Because it's what puts a smile on my face (besides the obvious)! every time i kit up, i kit up properly knowing it can save my life if the brown stuff hits the whirly thing on the ceiling. i've attended bike crashes in my job. i know full well what happens when things go wrong for bikers and i appreciate riding even more as a result.

I made promises to some people, some are still with us, others are not.. but on my bike there are things of significance to them. if i give up riding i see it as giving up on my promise to them to always have something that puts a smile on my face.

that why it doesnt affect me Smile
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have I read the article wrong?...

Biker goes round corner, collides with Mondeo - how? who was on the wrong side of the road - biker or car? Then, biker behind ran over the first biker - seems pretty unavoidable, but this biker still gets done - how?
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

huskie69 wrote:
this biker still gets done - how?


Cheaper insurance premium scape-goat??
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

huskie69 wrote:
Have I read the article wrong?...

Biker goes round corner, collides with Mondeo - how? who was on the wrong side of the road - biker or car? Then, biker behind ran over the first biker - seems pretty unavoidable, but this biker still gets done - how?


The key words are that they "pleaded guilty to careless driving on his Aprilla Tuono motorcycle".

I am guessing, he may have been speeding or he may have been following too close.

Hence wht it was only a careless driving charge he faced Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
The key words are that they "pleaded guilty to careless driving on his Aprilla Tuono motorcycle".

I am guessing, he may have been speeding or he may have been following too close.

Hence wht it was only a careless driving charge he faced Thumbs Up


Ahh, I missed that bit - poor bloke, as if having the death of a mate on his conscience wasn't bad enough. The article doesn't explain how the collision happened though - was the dead biker on the wrong side of the road or the Mondeo driver?
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: Do articles like this put you off? Reply with quote

finger_nails_are_pretty wrote:

Do horror stories like this put you off from wanting to ride? I know they were riding dangerously and I guess it is more of a reminder to ride safetly.


no. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living life is a very dangerous activity, it kills us all eventually.


But, despite the risk, I'm not just gonna give up doing it...
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