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PostPosted: 00:57 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: honda cg125 2007. DEAD Reply with quote

hi, i have been having problems with my honda. my bike broke down 5 mins in to my journey and i could not get it restarted, the starter was dying and sounding all weezy. and the light were very dim. i had a friend take a look at it a dn he found that a cable from the alternator (i think) was holding on to the connector on the battery by a thread, so he got a new connector. it wasnt a exact fit but it should have done the job properly. i had the battery taken out of the bike aswell and charged it up. i got every thing back in the bike and it worked for a while. i tried to take it for a test run and it just cut out on me and i couldnt get it started, then once again the starter wouldnt do anything and lights were extremly dim.
cheers for a speedy responce.
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PostPosted: 01:04 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

duff battery not holding a charge ? can you bump start it ?
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
duff battery not holding a charge ? can you bump start it ?

id say it not holding charge as all electrial things are not performing as they should. and what is a bump start and would that would for a few days on 40 mins rides to work and back. also the bike sometimes randomly cuts out for no apparent reason. this may affect a bump start.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

that ^^

a bump start is just, turn ignition on ( dont try starting the bike just have it on) knock it into first or something and push the bike with the clutch in. build up a bit of speed then when its rolling let the clutch out and give it some revs and it should come alive Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
that ^^

a bump start is just, turn ignition on ( dont try starting the bike just have it on) knock it into first or something and push the bike with the clutch in. build up a bit of speed then when its rolling let the clutch out and give it some revs and it should come alive Thumbs Up

aah, cheers i will try that, but will it run as normal?
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PostPosted: 01:18 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it will run exactly the same mate. just a way of starting without using the electric. hopefully it works so you can get around untill its all sorted
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dead alternator, your bike is using the battery to run, when there is no power left in the battery it wont run, as it needs power for the spark plug, normally your bike would use the power supplied by the alternator to keep it running and to top the battery up.

Simple check with a thing that I have just forgotten the name, that checks voltage and stuff with two prongs on a wire, god damn it, anyway, measure the current going through the battery and see what the alternator is putting into the battery when it is running, it should stay about the same, but if the voltage is dropping then you are running on the battery.

Also we have a forum aptly named The Workshop
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dying within 5mins of a ride?

riding with full choke on?
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PostPosted: 02:47 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob yarrr wrote:
pits wrote:
Dead alternator, your bike is using the battery to run, when there is no power left in the battery it wont run, as it needs power for the spark plug, normally your bike would use the power supplied by the alternator to keep it running and to top the battery up.

Simple check with a thing that I have just forgotten the name, that checks voltage and stuff with two prongs on a wire, god damn it, anyway, measure the current going through the battery and see what the alternator is putting into the battery when it is running, it should stay about the same, but if the voltage is dropping then you are running on the battery.

Also we have a forum aptly named The Workshop


multimeter ? Laughing

i thought it was the alternator aswell,could be bad wiring

That's the fucker, I wanted to say Ammeter but I knew it was wrong and so was voltmeter, as they only read amps or volts and of course we want multiple reading, what a mind blank though, I could picture it in my head.
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PostPosted: 04:54 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in agreement with Pits, it seems you have a dead alternator.

Your bike is using the charge from the battery to run, all the time, however the alternator provides charge to the battery as it generates an electric current by spinning a rotor around inside a stator. This provides electricity to charge the battery.

However, your alternator is not working for some reason, therefore the bike is running on charge from the battery and that will get used up quick. Since the alternator is not working it is not providing charge back to the battery so the bike has no power to run.

Think of it as a fountain, if it has water (electricity) in it, then it will keep going, if it has no water in it, the fountain won't work.

As Pits said, the easy way to diagnose this is to check the current across the battery and compare it to the current across the alternator with a multimeter, if there is a large difference then there is your problem.

Take it to a dealership and get it looked at. Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there no kick start of newer cg's?! rubbish if not! my old hack was a beuty i have never heard of anyone killing a cg, you can run them on grits and lime juice with sand as oil.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ollieholt wrote:
is there no kick start of newer cg's?! rubbish if not! my old hack was a beuty i have never heard of anyone killing a cg, you can run them on grits and lime juice with sand as oil.


I'm going to go and try that on my brothers CG.

and then I'm going to sue you.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sue me for what? id didnt say how long it would run for or under what circumstances Twisted Evil

ok then, chip oil and meths. Razz
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear treacle with peach schnapps and some ground nut oil makes them run sweet as a nut.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

correct me if I am wrong, but isn't second a better gear to bump with?
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellbound wrote:
correct me if I am wrong, but isn't second a better gear to bump with?


can be, i've never had trouble bumping with first. for a hill then i would use second maybe. second will turn the engine over more but you need more force. depends Confused
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellbound wrote:
correct me if I am wrong, but isn't second a better gear to bump with?

Depends if you are going to follow that up with a grind or not Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellbound wrote:
correct me if I am wrong, but isn't second a better gear to bump with?


yeah but i found it easier in first on small bikes so just said that. whatever works really Thumbs Up
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