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| Swim41 |
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 Swim41 Trackday Trickster

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 Posted: 19:25 - 20 Feb 2011 Post subject: Divvy to SV650 (or other suggestions) |
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I've had my XJ600N for four years now and for most of that time I've enjoyed it, done some great European and UK tours, rallies, the Ring, etc so have had my money's worth out of it. Recently though, I've become really fed up with the feeble performance and poor brakes (especially noticable when loaded up for touring) and it's become quite a chore to ride. I actually prefer driving my hatchback, which is enough said surely.
I'm planning to get something with a bit more 'soul' and a better riding experience, but want to retain the Divvy's strengths of reliability and lowish running costs. I don't want an outright sportsbike but the SV650 seems to get praise for the character of it's motor, as does the DL650 which has a similar engine.
Main uses for the bike are touring, rallying and exploration. Outright speed isn't really what I'm after, but 'grunt' is, hence thinking about a twin. Ability to mount hard luggage would be a plus (this seems to be possible with the SV, using removable racks). When touring I only do about 65mph tops as I keep off the motorways. Have considered MT-03, XT, F650 etc)
Budget is £2250. Any suggestions?  ____________________ Yamaha XJ600N |
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Having been a D6 rider myself and migrated on. i was happy to find that the bike I chose, was also the choice of a few other fello divvy riders.
Kawasaki Versys.
Slightly larger engine, with a bit more get up and go. A lot of options to add luggage.
Reliable as the D6, not quite as good on the mpg. D6 I got 60+ all the time V gives between 55 & 65 mpg. Think its the fact it likes to be ridden. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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 Paulington World Chat Champion

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I currently have a '54 plate SV650S for sale at £1800. Only done 10k miles on the dot. Pretty much immaculate.
PM if you want some info on it. . ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
Current Vehicles: '89 Kawasaki KDX200, '99 Yamaha XV535, '00 Honda ST1100 Pan-European, '08 Suzuki GSX-R1000, '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GS4 2.0 TDCi, '15 BMW 1 Series 116d Sport Turbo.
CBT: 27/08/08. Theory: 04/09/09. Module 1: 16/09/09. Module 2: 01/10/09. |
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| Blue_SV650S |
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I am not sure the SV (or any V-Twin) would make for a good tourer, of course it would do it all, but the IL4s are a lot smoother so bound to be less on fatigue!  ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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| fiveus wrote: | Don't the sv 650's also suffer from front cylinder problems.?Think they crack....... |
Only if poorly maintained.
Ones like mine that have been wash/waxed weekly, checked over, properly maintained and rarely even taken out in the wet don't. People who don't care about their bike and lack the common sense to figure out standard maintenence, then they have front cylinder problems and it's mainly confined to misfiring/not firing at all from the coil malfunctioning or water getting into the spark plug gap.
Hell, mine even has a flexible rubber guard that covers the entire top of the engine to prevent water getting to the top of the motor! They aren't as bad as everyone give them rap for. ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
Current Vehicles: '89 Kawasaki KDX200, '99 Yamaha XV535, '00 Honda ST1100 Pan-European, '08 Suzuki GSX-R1000, '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GS4 2.0 TDCi, '15 BMW 1 Series 116d Sport Turbo.
CBT: 27/08/08. Theory: 04/09/09. Module 1: 16/09/09. Module 2: 01/10/09. |
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| Slacker24seven wrote: | Paul - he does big tours. That may not be an option. |
It doesn't have to be clean to stay up and fine, as long as you do common sense maintenence to them they are fine. Hell, if you do long tours the rain will wash off the crap anyway! !
Don't get me wrong, I'm really not trying to 'big up' the SV series to make him more likely to buy the bloody thing, I'm just trying to get across that they really are not as bad to maintain and ride as everyone makes them out to be. . ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
Current Vehicles: '89 Kawasaki KDX200, '99 Yamaha XV535, '00 Honda ST1100 Pan-European, '08 Suzuki GSX-R1000, '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GS4 2.0 TDCi, '15 BMW 1 Series 116d Sport Turbo.
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 Swim41 Trackday Trickster

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 Posted: 19:22 - 21 Feb 2011 Post subject: |
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| Robby wrote: | Why not the 900 Divvy, it you like the bike generally. I fancy one of those one day, after reading a despatchers story in UBG years ago about one.
As for your feeble brakes, ever had them apart to scrape the corrosion from behind the pistons seals? If not, that could explain it. Whenever mine feel a bit weak and wooden that makes them feel good again.
Don't go for a parallel twin. As much as I enjoy my CB500, the vibes between about 65 and 75 put your hands and feet to sleep. |
The 900 is a good bus, agreed. A lot of bike for the money. Thing is though, both the 600 and 900, although 90s bikes, seem to be technologically throwbacks to the 80s and I think this shows in the brakes and handling. This isn't a criticism, but I fancy something a bit more modern. I have overhauled the brakes a couple of times on my 600 which improved things, but not greatly. For everyday use they are adequate, but with a pillion or loaded up for a camping trip then the stopping distances become huge - had a few scary moments! Mine is a '97 model with a single front caliper, I think they changed to dual calipers the year after.
| Blue_SV650S wrote: | I am not sure the SV (or any V-Twin) would make for a good tourer, of course it would do it all, but the IL4s are a lot smoother so bound to be less on fatigue! Thumbs Up |
Those DL650s are considered to be pretty good and generally well equipped for touring? I'm sure they use the SV engine. ____________________ Yamaha XJ600N |
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| Quote: | Posted: 19:36 - 21 Feb 2011 Post subject:
Swim41 wrote:
Those DL650s are considered to be pretty good and generally well equipped for touring? I'm sure they use the SV engine.
They certainly are, some folks have done a round the world trip (ala Charlie and Ewan) with a damn site less probs than the BMWs had
I reckon i could sit on the bike till I was bored, it is so comfy, and the engine is a peach!! luggage is easy to get and still leaves loads of room for 2-up riding.
The engine is a retuned Gladius engine (SV is the same, but the newer, not the older unit)
I looked at a versys too, but felt the Strom was a bit more bike than toy.
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Would you rate the DL650 for a big rider? Being 6'3 myself with long arms and legs i really struggle to find a bike comfy enough for me to do alot of miles. I'v loved my 2 TDM850's iv had but good models seem to be getting rare and the V-strom keeps catching my eye, although not sure which one would be better, the 650 or the 1000
A ____________________ Current: ZZR600
Previous: TDM850, ZX7R, TRX850,TDM850 (seriously underated bike!),XJ600 (owned for 6 hours), BMW K100, XTZ750, TDM850,GSXR600, FZR400 Streetfighter, XJ600 Streetfighter, ZXR750, FZR600 (Killed in the side of a car) And some little crappy things ridden round fields  |
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What about a Fazer 600?
There are a fair few decent ones about.
I got my 2002, 8.5k miles t&t for £1600.
Great bikes. Really will handle everything you throw at them. Great for commuting, touring, the twisties. Whatever you want.
Also no worries about the brakes being poor. They are from the R1 on the Fazer and trust me they work very well .
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https://www.seiderer.co.uk/bikeimages/FazerFZS600.JPG |
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Honda cbr600F  ____________________ Suzuki GSF600 K3 (in the fastest colour, black). |
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Naked or sport SV? I wouldn't buy the sport to go touring, I value my wrists too much
Something more upright would probably be a better idea, though if you're determined you can always fit some naked SV bits to a sporty one (like the bars and pegs) to make it more comfy. ____________________ Previous: 2002 Honda CB500 (sold), 2007 Suzuki SV650SK6 (crashed), 2005 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer (sold). Currently bikeless
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| 0l0dom0l0 wrote: | What about a Fazer 600?
There are a fair few decent ones about.
I got my 2002, 8.5k miles t&t for £1600.
Great bikes. Really will handle everything you throw at them. Great for commuting, touring, the twisties. Whatever you want.
Also no worries about the brakes being poor. They are from the R1 on the Fazer  and trust me they work very well  . |
I tried one of these a few years ago, nice machine, seemed quick compared to the Divvy. My mate had one and then moved onto the TDM900 which also has the R1 brakes. That's a decent bike too, and good on juice. ____________________ Yamaha XJ600N |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 364 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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