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MinhDinh
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 05 Mar 2011    Post subject: Battle of Zawiga is raging - Libya. Reply with quote

At the moment, heavy fighting is going on in the Libyan city of Zawiya.

This city of 300,000 is important to Gaddafi because it has one of Libya's three largest oil refineries.

Live updates can be found here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

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Forces loyal to Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi reportedly broke through rebel lines at an opposition-held city in fighting early Saturday that killed at least 30 people, witnesses said.

A doctor in the city told Reuters that mostly civilians were killed during the latest round of fighting for control of Zawiya, 50 kilometres west of the capital Tripoli.

The BBC reported that rebel fighters pushed government forces out of the city centre, before the army launched a second attack, using tanks to shell Zawiya's central square.

The battle for Zawiya could prove crucial to the regime's defence of the Libyan capital and for control of the nearby Tunisian border.

Residents said snipers are shooting at anyone on the streets and several fires are raging across the city.

"Please let the world know that we need some help. They have surrounded the city," a man who lives in Zawiya said. "Right now we hear a lot of heavy fighting. It's non-stop."

The rebels' setback in the battle for the city was the second in as many days.

A large arms and ammunition depot outside the city of Benghazi, the largest city in the rebel-held east of the country, blew up Friday in a massive explosion that completely destroyed an area three times the size of a soccer field.

Ambulance drivers who rushed to the site reported that at least 26 people were killed in the blast, which levelled several buildings, cars and trees.

It was not immediately clear how the depot blew up, but suspicion immediately fell on Gadhafi agents seeking to deny the rebels the arms and ammunition they need to fight their way westward toward the Gadhafi-held city of Sirte on the Mediterranean coast.

Residents join fight in port city

The rebels, however, fared better elsewhere, capturing the key oil port of Ras Lanouf from pro-Gadhafi forces in their first military victory in a potentially long, westward march from the east of the country to the capital Tripoli hundreds of kilometres to the west.

One of the rebels, Ahmed al-Zawi, said the battle was won after Ras Lanouf residents joined the rebels, who were armed with anti-aircraft guns and rocket-propelled grenades.




I have a feeling the US will want to get involved yet they won't touch Zimbawe or North Korea. Oil OIl Oil.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 05 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The north korea thing really isn't about oil. It's about china not wanting the US waging a war in a country just across it's border. Do you want the worlds 2 biggest nuclear superpowers having a war right next to each other? No thanks.

Zimbabwe is something the rest of the world should be doing something about but anything in africa is a real low priority for anyone's defence policy.

The US MAY get involved in the hope that a successful revolution will spread to other countries in the middle east. The reason that they're not doing something already is because they might then be expected to help out in every middle eastern revolution. That could spark protests everywhere causing the Saudi's and Iranians to suppress protests in their countries before they begin to avoid them getting US backing.

I'd support the US/UK evening the odds a bit for the protesters, but that's difficult to do without sending in troops yourself and us getting involved in a 3rd simultaneous middle east conflict when defence budgets are being cut, or it involves the supply or arms. There is no garentee who will be in charge if the protesters win and what they will do with the arms we've given them then.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
The north korea thing really isn't about oil. It's about china not wanting the US waging a war in a country just across it's border. Do you want the worlds 2 biggest nuclear superpowers having a war right next to each other? No thanks.

Zimbabwe is something the rest of the world should be doing something about but anything in africa is a real low priority for anyone's defence policy.

The US MAY get involved in the hope that a successful revolution will spread to other countries in the middle east. The reason that they're not doing something already is because they might then be expected to help out in every middle eastern revolution. That could spark protests everywhere causing the Saudi's and Iranians to suppress protests in their countries before they begin to avoid them getting US backing.

I'd support the US/UK evening the odds a bit for the protesters, but that's difficult to do without sending in troops yourself and us getting involved in a 3rd simultaneous middle east conflict when defence budgets are being cut, or it involves the supply or arms. There is no garentee who will be in charge if the protesters win and what they will do with the arms we've given them then.


This is what I mean, the US complain of Saddam but won't dare touch North Korea who do have weapons of mass destruction.

They complain of oppression from Caddafi but Mugabe is probably worse.

The US have sent a frigate to Crete near Libya. 4K troops.

https://www.sify.com/news/us-warships-docked-in-crete-amid-libyan-tensions-news-international-ldftageejjh.html
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:


They complain of oppression from Caddafi but Mugabe is probably worse.

The US have sent a frigate to Crete near Libya. 4K troops.

https://www.sify.com/news/us-warships-docked-in-crete-amid-libyan-tensions-news-international-ldftageejjh.html


As I've said, nobody gives a fuck about Genocide anywhere, people just don't give a fuck, if you claim that you do you are either lying to others, or to yourself for a Feel-Good-Feeling.

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There is going to be World War 3 in the Middle East, though, nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.

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PostPosted: 09:29 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As I've said, nobody gives a fuck about Genocide anywhere, people just don't give a fuck, if you claim that you do you are either lying to others, or to yourself for a Feel-Good-Feeling.



Remeber at a climate change rally as a test people in attendence were asked to sign a peitition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide,they were told that it was a dangerous chemical polluting the earth and without question hundreds of people signed it including the head organizer of the rally. These people protesting for massive changes in the way the world works signed a petition to ban water.

Or perhaps when a member of goverment comes out and declairs its time to put a 0.25% tax on each share bought and sold in the stock market, it will generate 150 billion a year and save the third world as well as make the rich pay!!!People light up to the idea like petrol to a match how ever with near zero knowledge of the markets they fail to see how this would eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs, destroy volume/liquitity,increase volatility and generate no where near the amount stated as those figures are based on todays transaction figures, figures that wont be possible with such a tax.

Infact it would lose money as the amount generated per year liable to capital gains tax decreases and bank balances to the tune to of trillions flood out of the country to a far away market that has a smile on its face but hey the idea sounds good! So people jump on it just because it feels right.

There are so many cases of this kind of behaviour its easy for people to throw the good-feeling-seeker label on someone who claims to care about something.

Genocide is bad every one will agree with that how ever there are two things, status and respect. For the most part people gain status by doing something inline with the thoughts in there head and being successful at it and in turn they gain the respect of others.

When you see someone saying there going to do something over and over and every time they take no action or action thats so poor it results in nothing do you respect them? No...do you listen to them on the issue? No....

This is why when a person moans about issues they are seen by people like you in the light you describe, "they havent changed it they must not care"

People do care but in a different way, they have a compassionate understading to the best of there abilitys instead of being consumed by the emotion of something they are 100% powerless to correct.

World war three may be next week-30.000 died today of starvation and every one reading these words is 100% going to die yet they arent consumed by the emotion of it because if they were AS THEY CANT CHANGE IT they would become disfunctional..to survive you must be functional.

Remember three things:

1- Theres not a person here that wouldt stop the horrific wrongs happening in the world if they had the power to, something to think about next time you tell one of us you will happily profit from our untimely death.

2- Every one here has the same power to change the wrongs of the world as you..if you havent change it its useless looking to another or moaning about there degree of care.

3- Moaning amounts to jack shit.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As I've said, nobody gives a fuck about Genocide anywhere, people just don't give a fuck, if you claim that you do you are either lying to others, or to yourself for a Feel-Good-Feeling.


World war three may be next week-30.000 died today of starvation and every one reading these words is 100% going to die yet they arent consumed by the emotion of it


There is an outlined trend available for the public to construct from the data widely available right now, they chose not to. A subconscious choice to ignore the coming calamities.

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if you havent change it its useless looking to another or moaning about there degree of care.


I haven't chosen to take action for the simple reason that there is a greater spectacle at play.

If you can't understand the Script, at least research what Peak Oil production is and the Human carrying capacity of this Planet.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

After claiming in his recent BBC interview that the people love him and that there are no protests in Libya, Colonel Gadaffi has just issued a new statement.

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PostPosted: 13:33 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Mushroom wrote:
Remeber at a climate change rally as a test people in attendence were asked to sign a peitition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide


That's ridiculous. Nobody is that gulli... Ohhhhhh, OK then. I just died a little inside. Probably DHMO withdrawal.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Mushroom wrote:
Remeber at a climate change rally as a test people in attendence were asked to sign a peitition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide


The thing is most people don't look into the facts themselves, they select a cause and follow, it's the sheep principle. While that example is somewhat deceptive, you cannot expect everyone to be chemistry experts and understand nomenclature, and they would have no ability to investigate it for themselves while at a rally, sent out in an email with the internet at hand it would probably not be so effective, although large numbers would still fall for it. A large quantity of people don't follow causes because they actually care about it which is why they're not really open to reasoning because they don't fully understand it and cannot argue the point.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:
After claiming in his recent BBC interview that the people love him and that there are no protests in Libya, Colonel Gadaffi has just issued a new statement.

The DFS sale will definitely end today at 2pm


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PostPosted: 18:58 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you can't understand the Script, at least research what Peak Oil production is and the Human carrying capacity of this Planet.


Because it's always vital to know the kerb weight and optimal speed of the steam engine that's rolling over you...
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 06 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
SirEdward wrote:
If you can't understand the Script, at least research what Peak Oil production is and the Human carrying capacity of this Planet.


Because it's always vital to know the kerb weight and optimal speed of the steam engine that's rolling over you...


If you know the physical properties and technical specs of said train, you can avoid it all together. Smile
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirEdward wrote:
If you know the physical properties and technical specs of said train, you can avoid it all together. Smile


Dream on. You do not have superpowers; you are not indestructible; all your special internet knowledge will not save you. You'll leap out of the path of the train straight under a speeding truck.

Welcome to Dystopia. Population: everyone.

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PostPosted: 02:11 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:

Welcome to Dystopia. Population: everyone.

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But Bazza mate you don't believe in conspiracy theories. There is no steam train, and when adjusted for inflation, in real terms, petrol costs the same as it ever did, and in six months time adjusted for inflation, it'll cost exactly the same. Laughing Razz
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PostPosted: 03:47 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
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If you know the physical properties and technical specs of said train, you can avoid it all together. Smile


Dream on. You do not have superpowers; you are not indestructible; all your special internet knowledge will not save you. You'll leap out of the path of the train straight under a speeding truck.

Welcome to Dystopia. Population: everyone.

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Just like that, snap your fingers and lay down? Is this how the general public behaved on September 1st, 1939? Oh, well, another war - have to protect the (mother, father)land, no warnings in advance; no English translation of Mein Kampf in circulation.

I'm starting to see a pattern here. Wink
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm starting to see a pattern here.


Of course you are.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/images/moviegasm/HarryPotterOrderofthePhoenix.jpg

The illuminated of the internet see the patterns in all

can you see the word "sex" its a conspiracy to make you gay edward
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hilarious to see ignorance bloom, the Internet is being dismissed as an irrelevant number in this equation.

You've read it here people, we had no use for the first Library of Alexandria anyway. Meanwhile, King Abdullah to Bahraini King: Put Down Ongoing Shia Revolt or My Own Forces Will. Info coming out of Egypt's Secret Service (Police?) about false flags setup by the state against their own people isn't helping the situation, #AmnDawla leaks via #Kuwait AlGareeda: Gamal #Mubarak and #SS secret body behind 2005 #Sharm bombing #Egypt #Jan25
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was being serious dude cant you spot a pattern unless its pointed out to you?

https://www.artistmike.com/Temp/SmokeSex01.jpg

Its there you just have to see instead of look...

https://themediatheweb.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/disneysex.jpg?w=197&h=300

Its every where you look and cheers for the report.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be very afraid of the thought that the pension is not going to be there for you, M_M.

Don't fear the reaper, accept it - it's gone, not getting any better & recovery Summer is going to be a blast. Smile
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't you be on your way to your desert island by now, you still seem to be posting on BCF. Given the apparent magnitude of what is about to befall us is there nothing better you should be doing with your time like stocking up on coconuts and Wilson volleyballs.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You must be very afraid of the thought that the pension is not going to be there for you, M_M.


Id be afraid if i was counting on one, hey have you heard of adampants?He released a series of talks in 2008 i think you will love him - you may still be able to catch his download on torrents its a few Gb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScMs325J0zE

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PostPosted: 19:40 - 07 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

First post in this threat still stands, everyone, bar a few have steered off-topic, even resorting to personal attacks.

I leave you with the abyss:

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"Unfortunately, the dangers and challenges of old have been joined by new forces of instability
and conflict…. A new and more malignant form of global terrorism rooted in extremist
and violent jihadism; New manifestations of ethnic, tribal, and sectarian conflict
all over the world; The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction; Failed and failing
states; States enriched with oil profits and discontented with the current international
order; and Centrifugal forces in other countries that threaten national unity, stability,
and internal peace—but also with implications for regional and global security. Worldwide,
there are authoritarian regimes facing increasingly restive populations seeking political
freedom as well as a better standard of living. And finally, we see both emergent
and resurgent great powers whose future path is still unclear.


https://www.army.mil/fm3-0/FM3-0.pdf

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I am told that the current op is only a pinprick and that the main thrust will happen shortly this evening, including a MASSIVE cruise missile strike from US warships

the info I am getting from US sources is that up to a couple of hundred missiles may be fired at surface to air sites simultaneously.

I am told to expect it to happen in a couple of hours or so, coordinated around the manned attack waves


Serbia Redux, makes me warm to see such massive show of force. Smile

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PostPosted: 21:01 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man this guy is a moron. It's telling when mad mushroom is coming across as the level headed guy arguing against the idiot tinfoil hatter.
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