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PostPosted: 16:23 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Would you buy a 2nd hand bike with no MOT? Reply with quote

Provided there is not alot of items that need to be worked on, and the overall price seemed cheap. Would you make a purchase?
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to not go for bikes without mot.

I think if the problems are so minor, why don't they just sort it out and sell it with an mot.... i would.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Would you buy a 2nd hand bike with no MOT? Reply with quote

London_ed wrote:
Provided there is not alot of items that need to be worked on, and the overall price seemed cheap. Would you make a purchase?


It depends how good you are with spanners, if you're mechanically minded, if you've got somewhere decent to do the job, and if you can be arsed in the first place. I bought a CB250RSA 8 years ago for £50 that hadn't been run for years, now got 51000 miles on it, still going well, love it to bits. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.


As long as you know what your doing and the price is very right then there isn't a problem. Everything is repairable its just a matter of cost. For instance, if its a sports 600 and it need two tyres and a chain and sprocket then you should account for £250-£300. Same on a commuter 125 would be £75.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a general rule a vehicle sold without an MOT would not get one easily, so its value drops by quite an amount without one.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did... My first (and only) bike was sold as seen. Taken as part-ex by a garage with no mot. Needed a lot of work, but got it at half the price of the same bike with mot. 100quid and a few hours of my time later and she was good to go, sailed through the mot.

It's all relative. My bike was worth 1500 with an mot, I paid 700 and then another 100 or so on parts. If someone was selling a bike at close to full value as "it'll sail through with 50p of parts putting on", I'd be very suspicious. If it was a good few hundred under, the seller was honest about what needs doing and you're comfortable you can get it mot'd without paying more that it's worth in the long run, go for it. Even if you don't save a huge amount of money, you'll still have the sense of satisfaction that you did the work yourself and it'll help you bond with your bike (maybe even give it a name)
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup I did exactly that, I saw the kwak advertised on some freeads website for £495 and rang the bloke up, he was honest and said it had no test and had been stood 6 months when the tax ran out etc. a similar bike with test was around £850 so I figured it was worth borrowing a bike trailer and going to bristol to get it.
all I dod was change the oil and lube the chain and it flew thru the mot (advised on fork oil as they were soft but no leaks).
Its done me well for the last year and just up for mot monday, hell i've even cleaned it twice in the time i've owned it lol.
I think on bigger bikes stuff like tyres and chains are more expensive so it would need to be reflected in the price but its usually easy to tell if something has been looked after well or not. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My answer is a DEFFO yes !
you can really get yourself some bargins out their
just make sure you bring someone along who is mechnically minded so they can cast their eye over the bike.
also if the bloke/girl Razz looks mechnically minded who you are buying it off take a fast walk away.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's important to be aware of what needs doing, but generally it shouldn't present a problem - as long as you know what you're up against and you get it at the right price.
I always avoid ads that say things like "Needs MOT. Doesn't need much doing. I can't be bothered to put it through a test" or "I don't have time to get it MOT'd but should pass"
Sadly, even bikers rip off other bikers, so unless you know what you're looking at/up against - get advice or don't buy.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I will change my answer.

Do not ever buy a bike from anyone, absolutely anyone, with the surname Moss, not even if your related to them. the risk is too great and life is just too short.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex81 wrote:
I think it's important to be aware of what needs doing, but generally it shouldn't present a problem - as long as you know what you're up against and you get it at the right price.
I always avoid ads that say things like "Needs MOT. Doesn't need much doing. I can't be bothered to put it through a test" or "I don't have time to get it MOT'd but should pass"
Sadly, even bikers rip off other bikers, so unless you know what you're looking at/up against - get advice or don't buy.

+1.
I never believe someone who's bike i'm looking to buy. Not a word. Too many liars. I pretty much give it an MOT by eye. I take the price i'd value a good one, then subtract money off (for the faff and hassle of getting MOT, and a little for the possibility of my having missed something that'll need to be put right). And of course, for putting right any faults i come across (that must've "slipped the seller's mind").

This, on the occassions i've tried it. means that the bike's price and my valuation of its actual value are significantly different (i.e. it's not worth the overoptimistic price they want).

People seem to think that putting "needs <minor item or 2> for MOT" is an acceptable way of trying to flog a lemon with other faults. It's not. I catch them out by finding said other (expensive) faults, then i walk, having just wasted an hour or so of their time (did i mention i check it thoroughly?). Well done to these sellers, who then no doubt to complain of all the "idiots and tyre kickers" they have to put up with on eBay. If people learned to list an honest advert in the first place, they'd perhaps have less of these "timewasters" (i.e. knowledgeable buyers who see through the bullshit) show up!
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never bought a bike with an MOT.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost the same here, few bikes I have bought have had a test on them.

The key thing is to check over expensive consumables like tyres, rear shock, sprockets and chain, and adjust the price to suit. It's easy to get suckered with a £4-500 bill for tyres, pads and a chain and sprocket kit for what seemed to be a 'real bargain'.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to look for bikes with no mot as they are cheaper to buy and the chances are I'm going to chop them about anyway to make them my own.
As long as you have a good look around them first (or get a mate who knows what to look for) then you should be on to a good thing.
My advice for anyone not sure or not comfortable with a 'no mot bike', walk away and buy something with mot. There are usually a good few similar bikes out there for sale so don't just jump on the first one and ride away.
I would rather check one over, see it has new boots, chain and sprockets and fork seals (like my last one) than have 7 months mot on it and have to replace ALL of the above (like my first one!)
If anyone in the suffolk area is ever thinking of doing this then feel free to pm me. Always happy to tag along to make sure you're not buying a lemon Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would and indeed have done many times. Usually stuff that has sat in sheds, garages and gardens for months/years. But I wouldn't if it was going to be something I needed to get MOT'd to ride in a hurry.
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