advice on a TT600

[dextersaurus]

Righto.

Need to settle my mind on this.

I've only ever ridden a 125cc single, and a 500cc parallel twin, both had carbs, and both had noisy as hell engines, so i got used to that.

But now i'm on an IL4 Fuel injected 600, and I really have no idea how it should sound.

I've been told to expect a slight tapping from under the tank, which is the injectors working.

Though when riding, if i gun it, the tapping gets louder, and quicker with the revs. Would this be the injectors?

running injector cleaner through the car for a week clears up the noise due to dirty injectors, so if i run injector cleaner through the bike, should that clear it up?

It's a 2002, with 24k miles and quite clean, so i doubt the cam chain, or anything else for that matter should be on it's way out. Going to give it an oil change, with the oil and air filters just because i can.

Just want to ease my mind. bike runs fine, starts off the button, pulls smoothly and sounds great, so i'm happy enough with it, just the noise of a bike's IL4 engine i'm not used to

Dunc

[Dr. Quack]

Well I would guess valve clearances.
The injectors do make a clicking noise that is audible with a stethoscope, and that is a good way of verifying an injector is not dead, but that noise is not normally audible while the engine is running.

[dextersaurus]

Cool, cheers.

Might as well get them done while when i get the oil and filters changed.

Looking at the Service manual it does say they're due to be checked at 24k miles, so it's due it now...

So on to my next question. how do you adjust the valves on a TT600, or is it easier to take it to the triumph dealer near me and get them to do it?

Dunc

[Dr. Quack]

I can't find the PDF workshop manual for it so I can't get the valve clearences. If you have never done valve clearances before I would take it to the garage. It's not a big job.
You might as well get a full service while you at it, because valve clearances are a part of a full service.
If you have the dosh it would be well worth it.
Maybe £150 for one of those.

[dextersaurus]

Not too bad then. shall have to wait till i get paid though

The EML came on the other day too after i replaced the spark plugs, probably because i was turning the engine over without the tank on, so i'll get them to re-set it while they're at it.

[MarJay]

[dextersaurus]

it's done about a hundred miles since last year, so that's probably the cam chain tensioner.

It dominates the sound of the engine at lower revs, though it only really happens on hard acceleration, and when engine braking.

I'll be taking the CCT out soon and getting that cleaned up and sorted, as that sounds the mose likely cause.

Cheers

Dunc

[McJamweasel]

The TT's are noisy motors and you will hear a ticking type noise from the valves. Lightly blip the throttle, if you hear the noise rise and fall with the revs its probably valves (which is what I suspect from what you've said), if it goes as the revs rise and comes back as they fall then cam chain/tensioner.

As you say, at 24k it should be due its 2nd major service/valve clearance check. Ignore Dr Quack, it's a bastard of a job on the TT's (especially if any shims need changing as the cams have to come out) and will cost you more than £150. You'll be paying that much in labour just to do the clearances. Bear in mind that they are a noisy engine even when brand new, so don't expect to lose that noise when you have the clearances done.
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[0l0dom0l0]

Probably CCT. If the noise is worse from cold then its defiantly your culprit!

A little trick if it is the CCT. Before you take it out, put the bike in gear and rock it back and forwards a few times. The change in the cam chain tension is meant to free the tensioner. I have never tried it and it is a myth, but if the noise goes away then its fixed it and save you having to take it out !

With regards to valve clearances, you will only need to adjust them if they are out of spec, so measure them first. Its not very difficult just taking all the fairing off that's a pain!

If they are out of spec then you will need to remove the cams. It's not as scary as it sounds though!

Get a Haynes manual and read through the procedure. It was a massive help when I did the Fazer.

Hope that helps.
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[MarJay]

[dextersaurus]

It only happens when moving, and mostly when slowing down using engine braking.

So i'll take it into Triumph when i get paid, then i'll have a look at the CCT myself and get that replaced/cleaned up.

Dunc

[Dr. Quack]

As clutch's wear you get ticking from the clutch at low speeds as you slow down. My mates suzuki rf 600 does this every time he pulls up by the side of me at the lights. I used to think it was mine till he told me. He races bikes and knows a bit about them.
Didn't know you had shims so the bill for the full service could be double the £150 unfortunately.

So if this only happens as you slow I would also guess the clutch.

[P.]

Same ish engine as the daytona.

Was fairly "noisy" in terms of sitting idling, there was definitely alot of clicking going on!
At 12k intervals.. i think are the major services.

The valves are a cow to do.. they were on the Daytona, no doubt the TT resembles the same arse about face approach.