Cagers outta my way.

[ZaphodBeeble]

Anyone else noticed that cars seem to readily pull over out of the way on duals and motorways lately? I still get the odd idiot sitting at 70 in the outside lane for ages but generally people are getting out of my way. Maybe it's my exhausts? Damn loud they are. Hmm dunno.

Do any of you lot undertake much when you get frustrated with 70mph tools? I have done it a few times to be honest although I do it carefully. Kind of.
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Current bike: VTR1000F Firestorm. Previous: Firestorm (written off) - XJ600 Divvy - NSR125 - DT125 and a load of offroaders.

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Yes, been using my leg wave quite abit of late.
Yes, i'll undertake if i get the opportunity.
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[Pete.]

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

^^^Agreed. Be clinical.
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[ZaphodBeeble]

[dextersaurus]

I have people pulling over to let me past on single carridgeways, but that might just be because i sit on their arse till they do pull over, or i get a chance to overtake.

Yes, it's stupid, yes i know the risks of doing that, and yes, i realise it gives us a bad name, but i'm a 19 year old hooligan, and cagers round here hardly notice bikes as it is.

I'd rather piss a cager off and make sure they've seen me than be calm and relaxed, and hope they've seen me

Dual carridgeways.... not so much, but then again, hardly anyone sits in the overtaking lane up here. apart from me.

Dunc

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

^^^Try holding back abit more but visible in the drivers door mirror.
If they decide to 'brake-test' you're more likely to have a sore face....My way, you stand a chance of either out braking them, or slipping up the outside.
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[Irn-Bru]

Undertake when I need to and even filter if there's a bit of traffic, bit of an arsecheek clencher filtering at 50 though, seems like a good idea at the time but I usually regret it later when thinking of squeezing past massive lorries... I'm too impatient for my own good.
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[pinkyfloyd]

[RichieZX6R]

when i'm in the cage (since the bikes not finished yet) i tend to move over if i see a bikes lights in the rear mirror
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Past: Kawazaki ZX6R 96 - Honda CBR 600F4 05 - Dragstar 125 02 - Honda CB 400 SF 94 - Honda NSR 125 51 - Gilera Runner XV125 04

[Irn-Bru]

I don't like it when cars do that to be honest, I feel obligated to make a move which might not be what I want to do... I do like it when people move over in slow moving traffic so I can filter past easily though
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[RichieZX6R]

[RichieZX6R]

people driving in the gutter annoys me somewhat! On a side road they get so far over you think they are going to have an accident and wipe you out as well! I tend to be more focused on this than the road!

Only move on dual carriage ways when there's plently of pace. I get annoyed somewhat about cars getting in my way when i'm on a bike.
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Current: Kawazaki ZX6R 51
Past: Kawazaki ZX6R 96 - Honda CBR 600F4 05 - Dragstar 125 02 - Honda CB 400 SF 94 - Honda NSR 125 51 - Gilera Runner XV125 04

[dextersaurus]

I should get a video at some point. bikes with fairings must look a lot more scary than nekkid bikes...

Driving in the gutted is one the old people here do anyway i hate driving with my grandad, he drives about an inch from the kerb.

I feel bad if someone pulls over to let me overtake when i don't want to, i usally either scream past them and wave a thanks, or hang further back...

Dunc

[Whosthedaddy]

If I'm in the outside lane driving at 70 with traffic in front of me, why should I move over for you? Why are you more important and in a hurry to get somewhere faster than me?

On the flip side I never bothered with waiting and filtered past them. If you're going to sit in traffic then why have the bike?
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[Dr. DaveJPS]

[RichieZX6R]

[blurredman]

Once upon a time you were taught that, on a motorcycle, keep to the left.


But because of mainly traffic and attitudes in modern society, the rule taught now is to keep in the middle of your lane. Prodominately to keep people from overtaking I think.
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Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 52k.

[Poseidon]

It frightens me seeing how close to the gutter some peds ride on single track roads. Some even ride so far to the left it invites traffic to try and pass them with oncoming traffic, causing some very close calls!

I was always taught to maintain a dominant road position as you only find two things in the gutter... Shit and dead bikers!
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1977 Honda CG125
2002 Ducati Monster S4 (currently restoring)

[The Tot]

What irks me the most is when the nearside is free, so you pull past a slow moving vehicle or lorry. There's a guy ahead doing 70. He pulls over to let you pass. You then go to the nearside lane because it's free and continue on your way. You subsequently look back into the mirror to see that he's already in the central reservation despite the LHS lane being empty!

Fair enough they're out of your way, but their discipline is poor!

Undertaking as illegal as it seems is sometimes the only way for me. If they're doing 60 when the LHS is clear, I WILL undertake 8 out of 10 times. The only time when I don't is when I suspect there might be an unmarked behind me or if i'm coming up to a sliproad.

Worst offenders seem to be mothers on the school run because they're distracted by their kids amongst other things.
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Never argue with autism

[Clanger]

I will happily undertake if in the car or on the bike. But will consider it more carefully if its a big lorry (on either).
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[Ingah]

[The Tot]

Well if you're undertaking at 80-90mph it bloody WELL is illegal!

I've been pulled up on it before by a jobsworth with my argument being that the overtaken vehicle should have the presence of mind to move to a more convenient and appropriate lane for their speed.

But that said, the way I ride, I seem pretty fluid when "making progress" that it might to unsuspecting eyes come over as slightly careless.

I suppose loud can and dipped beams ensure that they know what's behind. But you still get odd few who don't move over out of stubbornness or just inattentiveness. The stubborn drivers are the dangerous ones because an undertake can be construed as being an "aggressive move" on your part, and I've had one almost pull into my lane when I was moving past his left hand side. Some might just be inexperienced and get intimidated by it

Keep your wits about you, but in front of traffic seems to be the safest option for me. Anticipate the stupid and expect the idiocy from 70mph central reservation sitters.
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Never argue with autism

[The View Askew]

[Seb]

The ZX9 is superb for waking sleepy cagers, high beams on the wing mirror works wonders even if it is a little on the obnoxious side.

The XJR isn't so good at it but then I'm rarely the fastest thing on the road on that anyway so it's rare that I feel like I'm getting held up on the thing. The only time I annoyed about people crawling is on merging lanes, you end up with a lot of traffic all trying to squeeze into the same bit of road which is never much fun on a wheezy 20 year old 400
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