Upcoming changes to MOD 1 test

[Asharin]

From here:
https://www.dft.gov.uk/dsa/News.asp?id=SXA13E-A783A660&cat=593

[blurredman]

That's extremely interesting!

I know alot of people had greif over the 48/49kmph thing
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Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[fozzym]

I don't know what all the fuss is about with the mod 1... To be honest its a piece of piss and without sounding harsh for those that have problems with the swerve then god help them on the road when things happen out of the blue.

The problem with any test is that its not real life even when its on the public roads. By that I mean, you don't ride how you would normally on your test.

You learn to pass the test and then develop your skills and own style, granted some are better than others but then that could be said for anything.....some doctors are crap but they passed the same tests as the very best.

[Rogerborg]

Mod 1 is a piece of cake on a sunny Spring day on an ER-5. But do it in standing water or a howling gale on a shagged out CG125, and that 50kph limit looks a bit more intimidating.

These changes are a bizarre attack of common sense, and I welcome them.
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[N cee thirty]

the dsa... common sence .. :O

never thought i'd see them in the both sentence
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[Sham]

What the Double Standards Agency doing something sensible? Surely not!

I like the % speed business, that's a good idea. I think the MOD1 is a good concept, and this 'tweak' is a good enhancement.

[UnspeedySam]

They're good changes. Although there's nothing particularly significant other than the 2kph boundary thing the reordering is also nice. I'm a little pissed off because I would have passed first time rather than 4th...only failed on being 2kph too slow before the swerve.

In case anyone is wondering, the second and third times were just stupid mistakes. Second time I had my feet sticking out when going through the speed trap for the swerve, knocking over the measuring device. Third time there was standing water and I had a pretty major rear wheel lock up.

The 50kph thing is some serious speed on a 125...I know it doesn't sound like much but it really is tough especially under stress.
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[Rogerborg]

Yup, they're decent, sensible changes.

I think there should be even more discretion in the speed test: candidates should be expected to ride to the conditions on the day, not to try to achieve something that they believe is dangerous.

Ah well, they might sort it out when they do the full re-spin later in the year.
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[Redoko]

Ridiculous test.


Finally they've changed it.
Too little too late IMO.

Would of much prefered it if they got their act together before I had to do it.
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[Paulington]

[fozzym]

I feel sorry for folks that fail the test and i reckon most is due to nerves but if you can't do a maneuver in controlled conditions then god help you on the road. When you do the serve test you know what you have to do and the test only goes ahead if the conditions are deemed safe.

I'd imagine most people that fail would admit they just screwed up due to nerves if they are being honest.

When you think about it, its the mod 2 that has all the uncontrollable elements ie.. other road users and varying road conditions ect.

Get a grip guys and get it done. We can all moan that its too hard and our Dads only had to ride round the block in the 70's but times move on.

I must be a freak but i quite enjoyed the mod 1. Are you guys that fail getting adequate and good quality training??

[Rogerborg]

[fozzym]

[Hyaon]

Frightening....lots of common sense there, bet most of it was feedback screamed on a loudhailer by riders and instructors rather than the dsa people coming to their own conclusion

bit late indeed, especially for me even though I got it done with no minors.
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[Rogerborg]

[fozzym]

[junxs]

By the sounds of things the slow follow part of the test is being abolished.

Makes sense, the figure of eight and u turn is enough to show you have control of the bike. When on the road, if the traffic is slow then can you put your foot on the floor and wait for the traffic flow to speed up so why test this in the first place?

I failed my test because I put my foot on the ground during the slow follow, I swear he was walking as slow as a human can possibly walk. I have a Suzuki 125GZ Marauder, which has a big frame so its harder to control in extremely slow speeds.

[Oldie]

The new layouts look a bit strange (see the links at the bottom of the DSA link)

https://www.dft.gov.uk/dsa/News.asp?id=SX118A-A783A660

[Rogerborg]

It's just different, and simpler. The old layout was "strange" as well.
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[joncwl]

To be honest, i welcome the changes as i've yet to look at Mod 1, before these changes and from what ive looked at from the comments its a good change, and ill wait to take this test.
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[Hyaon]

Is it just me or does the MPTC Diagram look like a sperm about to fly off a ramp into a....you know.
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[joncwl]

[Oldie]

I reckon that the biggest impact will be on those doing the restricted licence route as many people have failed on 125's by not getting up to 50kph. The new tolerances are a real benefit and bring back some reality to the test.

Having said that, I only managed 48 and 50 on the cb500

[jrolph94]

I have my mod 1 in a couple of weeks so hopefully the changes should make it slightly easier.

[parkmoy]

Has anyone got an updated link for the Mod1 layout and measurements please? The one above is coming up' error 404 not found' and I can't seem to find another link.