Mandatory SORN for uninsured bikes to start 20th JUNE 2011

[Rogerborg]

As we discussed previously[1], the DVLA will [after 20th June 2011] be sending blackmail letters to people with bikes that are uninsured but not SORNed.

We've speculated on when this will happen (I have two bikes in this state at the moment), but I've just seen on the DfT site that:

It is planned for the first insurance advisory letters (which warn individuals that they appear to be uninsured) to be sent at the end of June following a publicity campaign to raise awareness of the CIE scheme.

Note that's the advisories, and there will doubtless be a lot of them, so it should be a good while after that before they get serious about demanding money with menaces.

[1] This isn't a re-post, it's a deliberate new-post to save wading through crud.
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Hi

Thought it was already in place, even if not yet being actively pursued.

All the best

Keith
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[Scythe]

My tax expires at the end of June, my insurance at the end of August. When my tax expires, I'm applying for a tax refund and SORN'ing it at the same time, I should be ok shouldn't I?
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[Rogerborg]

[kenjh]

we have govement mandated insurance you pay your road tax at the same time you get you tag and proof of insurance..
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[Rogerborg]

Mandatory 3rd party makes a lot of sense, even better if it's paid for by fuel duty. Bear in mind that the MIB uninsured driver scheme effectively operates as that, just in a unnecessarily complex and inefficient way.
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[Rogerborg]

BUMP: Judgement Day is now 20th June 2011.

There will be an ad campaign beforehand, doubtless banging on about the Menace of Uninsured Drivers, without explaining in the least how making you SORN an uninsured vehicle does anything at all to stop you from driving it.
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[N cee thirty]

better get ma fazer sorn'd
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[chris-red]

Not really bothered it isn't that much of a pain to Sorn your vehicle and if you send your tax disc off you get money back, I can;t fathom how it will stop Insured drive though, I'm sure if somebody has the mentality that those who drive uninsured have, I'm sure they don't give a shit about road tax either.
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[Sham]

Is this really a big deal? Genuine statement, not trying to get a rise. What is the problem of filling a SORN out and sending it off? And why would you have an uninsured vehicle on the road anyway?

Agreed, that in some instances it may be a pain, but for most folk, it won't be an issue at all.

[Cunnington]

In the past I've been in the position where my bike's dropped a valve and I couldnt afford the parts at the same time as my insurance renewal .

Under the new rules, I wouldnt be able to get the bits first and do the rebuild whilst saving for the insurance, which is what I did. I'd need to pay for the insurance, to keep the tax disc to allow me to keep the bike on the street, where I would have to just sit and look at it, counting the days until I could get the spanners out.

I'd be all for third part insurance paid for through fuel duty - basically pay as you go - and there would be no chances of an uninsured scrote totalling your pride and joy leaving you taking the hit.
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[Sham]

Fair points, although I don't share the scepticism. It probably started off as a good idea, and the 'men in suits' got hold of it and, well, bastardised it.

[Fortuna]

Anyone know the current rate of insurance premium tax and whether it increased in the last budget? Hmmm.....

EDIT: Just thought I'd add my 2p. One of my uncles has been banned from driving countless times, evades the police dukes of hazards style when chased and has NEVER taxed, mot'd or insured any car he's owned, ever. He has been to prison countless times.
One time when he was being sent away he basically told the judge they'd have to cut his arms and legs off to stop him driving, because as soon as he's released he'd do it again.

Don't condone it one bit, but...how will these new rules stop that type of behaviour? It won't and he won't care.
You and me on the other hand will be hit where it hurts, our pockets. This tax will then go to looking after people in prison who drive while disqualified/no insurance etc.

[Rogerborg]

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[N cee thirty]

so its something labour came up with ? typical
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[mysterious_rider]

came in pretty quickly didn't it.

[Willson]

[Bendy]

Came this morning with my RD sorn reminder.

[Chalky.]

But of course, we sent off the SORN documents didn't we?

They must have lost them.

[neil.]

I had a bit of a hunch about this but never looked into it properly. Glad I did as I just SORN'd the YBR, which I cancelled my insurance on just over a week ago. Phew! Piece of piss to do online, takes seconds. Hmm that means I'm owed 9 months of refund - £11.25. Woohoo.

I'd have thought the insurance companies would start reminding people of this now, mine didn't.