replacement brakes

[pork6156]

Hi all,
I have a 98 Kwak ZZR600, I would like to upgrade the brakes, anyone got any ideas on what would be a good replacement with better stopping power.
Cheers guys

[kat250]

The standard brakes are pretty good when serviced and maintained. I know early Nissin Blade calipers will fit in but you will need to get some sleeves made to fit in the mounting holes on the fork leg as the bolts are thinner.
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[MarkJ]

Fitting braided lines is normally a good place to start if you don't have them already. Giving the pistons a good clean is free and normally gives you a bit more feel. After that you're onto fancy pads and discs, new calipers etc.

[stinkwheel]

If you've got around £600 to blow, Harrison billet will do you a set of custom made 6-pot callipers which are the absolute dogs danglies.

https://www.billet.co.uk/img/P3.jpg
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[Gazdaman]

I tend to side with MarkJ's budget rather than Stinkwheel's (beautiful as they are).

Get a set of braided hoses, get a set of EBC's 'HH' pads. Give the calipers and pistons a damn good clean when you fit them and you'll be amazed at the difference.

Won't break the bank either.

Gaz

[Kickstart]

Hi

Having a ZZR600 I can understand your feelings. While the brakes might be decent enough when new they seem to be especially prone to turning to a useless mess with a bit of time.

I am not a great fan of braided hoses (not saying they don't work, more that the difference between them and conventional rubber covered braided cloth lines isn't that great compared to the difference from actually bleeding the brakes thoroughly), but if your hoses are wrecked then they are worthwhile.

Having already got braided hoses and being sick of stripping the useless calipers down (especially when once I could get them to bleed through despite new pistons and seals) I am tempted to go with the Honda calipers and small spacers. Think you need a top hat shaped spacer to go from the 10mm ZZR mounting bolt holes on the forks to the 8mm bolts the Honda calipers use, top hat shaped to offset the calipers slightly.

All the best

Keith
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[Vincent]

[Vincent]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Honda use the 8mm bolts as standard, so you can keep using the bolts that match the calipers. I would be rather more worried about chopping some material away from the caliper where it mounts.

That said, some people seem to have got away with just bolting on the Honda calipers without spacers, just doing the bolts up tight to try and keep them in position .

All the best

Keith
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[stinkwheel]

I'd be tempted to use some green bearing fit on the sleeves or make them marginally oversize for an interference fit and sweat them in, then they wont be going anywhere.

I think honda use stretch bolts there anyway? Once they're nipped up tight to the correct torque, it's all acting like a single piece of metal anyway. The bolt itself wont be subjected to much in the way of shear stress.
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