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 Posted: 18:37 - 16 Jun 2011 Post subject: Caused by a speeding motorcyclist.......... |
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Far too fast around a blind bend approching a junction
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Can't find the longer version of that video that pans left and shows the blind curve the biker just came out of. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Yup, in the longer versions of this video, bikers are hooning it up and down this road at Epic Speed, and there's a bend off to the left. The van driver did stop when he saw the bike, so he was paying attention. He can't be expected to give way to a potential hazard, or he'll never commence the manoeuvre. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| Wyldkat wrote: | Watch the vid - the van signals and starts to pull in to the turning, (there is also a car waiting to come out of that same turning), then stops.
He obviously sees the biker at the last possible minute.
Even the biker that was behind the van can be seen to be slowing for, what is given as 'a blind bend' |
If it is a left hand bend out of shot then the car on the right would have had an earlier view of the motorcyclist coming around the corner than the van and would be expected to react to it earlier. however the car is stationary for some time, and whilst not indicating it appears to be positioned slightly left and waiting for traffic to pass suggesting he intends to go into the far lane and go left, you wouldn't do this with a van and series of cars approaching.
| Quote: | Biker = WAY too fast for the bend if it was indeed a blind bend
Van = pulled over at quite an acute angle, obviously expected to go straight in to turning, should have anticipated traffic coming the other way
Verdict - both equally at fault but biker was speeding.... |
I agree, bike was too fast even if it wasn't a blind bend (approaching a hazard adjust your speed to suit).
However, given that the reported blind bend is not shown it is impossible to ascertain if the van was in anyway responsible. You cannot wait at a junction forever in case a speeding vehicle suddenly appears. Added to that and there are a load of morons stood in the junction both diverting attention and potentially altering the course of the van.
I don't think from the video that is reasonably possible to say that they are both to blame, all the video suggests is that the bike was travelling too fast. If there was not a blind bend ahead then the obs of the van can take some blame, if the bend wasn't that tight/blind (bike was travelling very fast, would have had to be a bit of a hero to go round a tight one at that speed) then the van could have some responsibility but otherwise we cannot tell as we do not know the circumstances. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 252 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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