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Drake
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 19 Jun 2011    Post subject: stubby Reply with quote

just wondering what happens if you stubby a 2strokes end can?

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PostPosted: 15:14 - 19 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It gets louder.

The silencers on two strokes don't have much, if any effect on engine performance. That's what the expansion chamber does. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 19 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh cheers ahh yer hence why the old race 2strokes ddint have them
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 19 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too sure, the "end can" on a 2t exhaust is merely a silencer wrapped around, what would be the "stinger", on a non silenced expansion chamber. Exhaust gasses are escaping from the "Stinger" into the end can, or muffler, the can is there to comply with noise regulations.

I've been looking into this recently, I'd like to replace, or do away with, the cans on my 250 YPVS. No noise regs where I am and one of the cans is knackered,

There are precise dimensions for the stinger on an expansion chamber, those being:-
"Stinger" pipe diameter should be between 0.58 and 0.6 of the diameter of the down pipe.
"Stinger" length should be 12 times that of the calculated diameter.

In my case that equates to a "Stinger" 25mm diameter and 300m long.

Given that there are rules governing the length of a "Stinger" I'm pretty certain that making your can shorter is going to affect performance and not in a good way.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 19 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

On some expansion systems the silencer can help create back pressure.
Remove it, and you reduce the back pressure which could have a negative effect on engine performance.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 20 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
In my case that equates to a "Stinger" 25mm diameter and 300m long.


Shocked.

At about 2kg per metre, 600kg of steel tube hanging off the back of the bike would certainly make wheelies easier Very Happy .
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 20 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
At about 2kg per metre, 600kg of steel tube hanging off the back of the bike would certainly make wheelies easier Very Happy .


Embarassed

300mmm, it's the Alzheimers creeping up on me!
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 20 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
300mmm, it's the Alzheimers creeping up on me!


Mmmmm Mattesons! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 20 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oy less of that, I've got a st-st-stutter! Wink
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