Best 4 stroke 125cc motorbike for speed/looks?...

[leepick]

question says it all...

yamaha yzfr125
derbi gpr
sachs xtc...
Etc.

what 4 stroke 125cc motorbikes do you think are the best...
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Aprilia RS125

[P.addy]

Wrong forum, also been asked hundreds of times.

I recommend the Hyo GT125R.

But other people will say others..

The GPR is ok, but in 4 stroke form, its shit.

Most 125 4 strokes are shit, I own 1 to commute on the super cheap as I have a minimal commute and the 750 is killing tyres in less than 2000 miles


Oh

inb4 "YBR full test"

[MarJay]

They are all just as slow as one another.

The Aprilia RS4 looks pretty good IMO, as does the Yamaha R125 but they are both overpriced IMO.

You'd be better off with a CG or YBR.
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[leepick]

my rs125 does 97mph. they aint that slow, and when i meant fast i meant acceleration. i dont want to do 140mph+ i just want to be able to get to 70mph in a short amount of time. very short lol
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Aprilia RS125

[P.addy]

[jjdugen]

I feel really sorry for you young guys. In my youth we could tear around on things like this. 70 - 80 mph, a racing kit to make it even faster (and more fragile). Why cant Honda et. al just reintroduce their 60's stff again with better electrics?

[Teflon-Mike]

[alains]

the worse 2strokes 50cc is better than the best 125 4strokes
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[unitynotsocri...]

Two stroke 125's ,modded a little are much more fun but petrol is pricey .Most 4 stroke 125's range from agricultural to refined but you mostly get stomped by 12 hp.You could do far worse than a Honda Cg.
For looks there's many newer 125 4 strokes ,all you can really do to 'mod' the engine is a k n N filter and a different exhaust.Cos of the power limit ,the only real option is to choose one with great handling/styling.Once you get past 60/65 mph any speed advantage is pretty worthless unless you go downhill with the wind behind you.
I'd reccomend a CG with decent tyres, K n N,and a decent exhaust.
If you've the money then Sachs/derbi.

[stonesie]

CG, but I am biased as I still have mine.

They get a lot more respect than I expected as they've been around for so long, thousands of bikers have fond memorys of spanking a CG about


Also, if you do come off it then you will probably be able to repair it cheaply, Drop a 'plastic fantastic' 125 and you will cry when you get the quote for repaired/replacement plastics and any spraying to make it look how it used to.

[clancy]

[lozza59]

honda cb 125 superdream!!! if my speedo is anything to go by it was doing nearly 40mph in 2nd gear around 12,000 rpm
goes past 12k rpm though !!
they have 13k on the clock but they go past that i think 14,000 rpm is max revs (have to guess as there is no numbers where the needle ends up)
my 2004 cg was a fair amount slower than this 1983 cb125

[dangerousdave]

Yzf125 is good, but alot of money don't you think ?

Plus they are slow compared to the two-strokes.

Any of the old two-stroke 125's would be much faster, genuine 100mph on the good ones. They're lighter too. And can be had for under a grand.
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[adamck]

For good looks... Hyosung GT125R

My Bike (work in progress)
https://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g12/adamck/5746b0ee.jpg

Its big and a good looking bike, the 2011 have even more improvements such as EFI and nicer styling etc...

Its pretty much as fast as all the other 4 strokes, apart from this is a V-Twin so it sounds better
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[binge]

CBT = £100 (Roughly)
Yamaha R125 = £4000

Not to mention the insurance etc.


Full bike test = £500 (Roughly)
99 R6 = £2000

That takes it to £2500, leaving you £1600 to insure it, TAX it, MOT it and get some gear.




Ben

[Codemonkey]

[Teflon-Mike]

Between Binge & Codemunkey, lies an awful lot of options.
And as said, even a 2nd hand R125, will only hold value if you dont crack a fairing... whats the chap on here looking for fairings mention, something like £300 for the main Left hand panel?

Insurance on an R6 is daft for most people; but difference in premium between an R125 and say a Thundercat, or a ZX6R isn't so big. Between R125 & an SV650 even less, and get down to an older GPz500S and in all liklihood it will be cheaper.

R125 is the same insurance group as a GS500; factor in the high 'value' of a newish R125, and the lower value of older 'big bike', and remove loading from being a qualified rider, and in all liklihood, you can insure something pretty interesting for the same money.

'Sporty' 125's JUST for the 'look' really are an inordinately expensive 'vanity'.

Whatever your motives, or however you try justify it, they rarely stand up to hard facts, and are revealed to simply be 'self delusion' to try and 'excuse' the simple vanity.

Fact is, whether you pay £1000 for a sporty 125 or £4K, they are expensive bikes, to buy and to run, which aren't fast... even the fabled 'genuine' 100mph two strokes.

Open the door unlocked by a full licence, and you have access to bikes, which are 150mph fast, or more.... if you have unrestricted licence, you can push 170 plus, from an old ZZR11 or an RF900, for the kind of money that would barely get you a top end rattly, dropped a dozen times Arpillia RS125. In context, 125's even the fastest of the fast, simply are NOT that fast.

And, if that's what you want, fast, trying to do it with a 125 is a self imposed impediment... NOTHING stops you riding a big bike, apart from taking tests and getting a licence, and if you can ride a 125, you can take tests and get a licence! So only thing holding you back is yourself, NOT doing tests!

If you want cheap motorcycling, you dont buy a 125 that is more expensive to insure and run than a GS500.... that is not 'cheap' motorcycling.

If you want 'fast' or 'exiting' motorcycling, you don't buy a 125... even a 33bhp 'restricted' GPz500 offers more speed and more exitement, than a 125.... even the fabled, and illegal to ride on L's 100mph two stroke 125's.

If you really like them, FINE bottom line is, its your money, your choice.... but dont kid yourself, or try kidding others that they are worth it for anything OTHER than that 'vanity', and I dont know, whatever it is that is holding you back from unlocking the door to so much 'more' biking, by taking the tests!

Take away that ONE imperative, the 'L'Plate, and WHY would 'sporty' 125's even exist? WHO, with a full licence BUYS a 'sporty' 125? They DONT... they dont make ANY sense, unless you don't have a licence... and since, at the moment, there is no legal impediment stopping any one who can hold a provisional and ride one on L's taking tests, to get more of a bike for their money.... WHY limit yourself by a self imposed limitation?

In 18 months time, there's likely to be a bit more reason, for one, if you are 17, becouse after 3rd Directive, you might not be able to have anything more than a 125, even if you take tests, becouse A2 'restricted' licence will be on a 500, DAS style, and you'll have to be 19 to do the test.... but at the moment?

There is no age restriction, or legal limitation that means you HAVE to have a 125, and so a 'sporty' one is the 'best' you can do.... only restriction is self imposed, NOT going for tests for sull licence.

Hence, sporty 125's remain, pretty much an utterly unjustifiable, 'Vanity'.... which is fair enough, if that vanity is worth it to you.... but PLEASE, cut the self delusional bullshit, that there is some more 'sensible' reason behind buying one! There isn't!
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