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PostPosted: 16:21 - 25 Aug 2004    Post subject: [FOR SALE] Arai Signet GT Reply with quote

Arai Signet GT (Small size)

Metallic Black

Irridium and clear visor. Both with Fog City's.

Helmet has been warn once, brand new condition, still in original box.

£180
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask, as I have seen a lot of people read this and not respond.

Would you say that I am dreaming if I believe I can sell a second hand helmet?

Would most of you not touch one?

I have advertised this on a couple of forums and quite a few people are coming back saying that nobody in their right mind would touch a second hand helmet, do you agree?
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be true on a bike forum, I know I wouldn't.

But then there's always the magical place that is Ebay. Wink

As long as you know that you conscience is clear then why not?
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put it on ebay and say it's the wrong size and you left it too late to return or something. That makes it new, by all accounts.

I just viewed it cos I'd never heard of an Arai Signet. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't buy a 2nd hand helmet, I just wanted to see how you advertised a 2nd hand helmet on a bike forum.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, thanks guys.

My conscience is clear completely.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally wouldn't buy a 2nd hand helmet either. If I was paying £200 I'd want a brand new one.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its possible to drop a helmet in a protective bag or rucksack and it not show any damage on the outside, risky to buy 2nd hand imo but youve nothing to lose Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 26 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is an interesting point.

I am going to sell it on Ebay, I like Bendy's idea....

They seem to go £100 upwards, so I will give that a go.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 28 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rvf_FiRe wrote:
Its possible to drop a helmet in a protective bag or rucksack and it not show any damage on the outside


Which is what also worrys me about shops, how do we know that our "Brand New" helmets have never been dropped in the shop/factory?
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 28 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant wrote:
Rvf_FiRe wrote:
Its possible to drop a helmet in a protective bag or rucksack and it not show any damage on the outside


Which is what also worrys me about shops, how do we know that our "Brand New" helmets have never been dropped in the shop/factory?


Hmmmm, thats a great point and too be honest i've never ever thought about that Idea and it is kinda worrying now you say it Confused . We all know how some shop assistants throw stuff about out back in sports shops or supermarkets for example ( many others ).
I guess we just have to rely on the fact that the people that work in a bike shop, factory etc have enough decency and respect for something that is meant to help save our lives that they do take that bit of extra care. Having seen many helmets in their boxes though, i haven't noticed a well packed box like a tv, video or dvd player comes in Confused
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 31 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case someone out there does trust me. Here are some close up pics.

www.mad-als.com/arai
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woh ho!

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2488702674
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

How odd!

Oops! Embarassed

Sorry, my mistake!


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PostPosted: 23:33 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pants, what camera do you have mate?? It's amazingly good quality... I got a Sony DSC-P10 5 MP camera a few months back but a remotely decent quality picture is a rarity.. stupidly annoying for £300 when there are probably so much better cameras out there.. I take it yours was very expensive?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have taken this pic

https://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/02/62/93/11_1.JPG

while standing in the buff. Like that guy and his kettle. Thumbs Up


By the way Slavo, it says small in big bold letters at the top of the description. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 09 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll buy the iridium visor off you if you want to sell it. Thumbs Up as long as it fits Astro J, looks like it does.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

YamsR6,

Thanks Cool

I have a Nikon D70, it is an entry level digital SLR, with lens around £1000, you can get them cheaper online. The really good digital SLRS start around £1500 upwards.

I actually reduced the quality of them for web use, the originals are perfect.

Bendy,

LMAO! Yes, I never thought of that. The front shot I used Photoshop to dust out my reflection, but I left it on the back one.

Laughing

Next time I will be naked in the reflection, it may help sell the item.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Pants! wrote:
I have a Nikon D70, it is an entry level digital SLR, with lens around £1000, you can get them cheaper online. The really good digital SLRS start around £1500 upwards.


Shocked Shocked Shocked

Okkkkkkkkayy that's that idea out the window Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have a Canon S50, similar spec to your camera, I have got some blinding shots with that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008R9NV/qid=1094809366/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/026-3128614-9230052

These are ones I took with my S50:

https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and18.htm a bit blurred, but not bad. I set the shutter speed quick for this one

https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and23.htm out of a car window, I was driving and just holding it out the window backwards and pressing like mad. I set the shutter speed quick for this one

https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and7.htm

https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and21.htm

Don't get my wrong here, I am pants at photography, but I am willing to learn. Maybe the lack of quality is more user error than crap camera if you know what I mean. Try different settings, other than auto and see what you can do. 5mp is very good quality, my really good camera is only 6.1mp. I know there is more to quality than just MP, component CCD quality, lens quality etc etc. But that Sony you have looks pretty good to me.

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PostPosted: 12:17 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't get a moving picture remotely as good quality as your S50... Mine are always grainy and dull. I have tried various settings, can't actually work out how to change the shutter speed though, that seems to be one of the biggest problems with it.. Also the flash sometimes burns my finger? Shocked Mad

I'm just pissed off with it as I can't get any decent shots despite playing with settings..

https://www.britishgp-sc.co.uk/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=262 <-- grainy

https://www.britishgp-sc.co.uk/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=267 <-- dull and grainy

https://www.britishgp-sc.co.uk/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=250 <-- dull

https://www.britishgp-sc.co.uk/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=255 <-- still shots are better quality provided I don't blur them Laughing but still dull and lifeless compared to yours Crying or Very sad

https://www.britishgp-sc.co.uk/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=261 <-- also dull and grainy

I know I'm crap Laughing but do expect some better general quality pictures from the camera.

Mates 3 MP camera gets better pictures than mine!

I have improved with photos lately, can actually get the whole object in the frame, i.e. a bike Laughing and get some okay action shots despite the quality lacking considering its a 5MP camera!

I use it mostly on "Action" setting.. the shutter speed is quicker, but the image dulls down a LOT and loses quality... any idea how to make my own setting with a nice exposure but still quick shutter speed?
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is time to RTFM Laughing

Your pics look pretty good to me. Cool

Okay, looked at your camera on Amazon, it looks like you can set the shutter speed, ISO and aperture manually. This is going to be tucked away in a menu somewhere unless you have an S on your wheel on top of the camera where the "Action" setting is.

You need to find out how to put it in "Shutter Priority Mode" this means that the camera will take care of the aperture for you. If not, go for the manual mode and you will have to do aperture yourself

For moving objects like bikes, you need a faster shutter speed, you camera can go as fast as 1/2000 of a second, to think that my clearest action shot I managed to get a Silverstone was 1/250 of a second, you have plenty to play with. Looking at your pics, the bikes are not going to be doing any where near the speed of the Silverstone bikes.

Problem with fast shutter speed is you do get a reduction in light, so that has to be compensated. To do this you need to change your film ISO. Yours ranges from 100 - 400 ISO. You will want 400 for faster shots. If you had film, a 400 ISO film would be more sensitive to light than a 100 ISO so it needs less exposure time.

Your Aperture ranges from 2.8 - 5.6, as I said, in the shutter priority mode the aperture will take care of itself.

Another tip I learnt with my S50, I tried to hardly ever use the zoom, it is just not good enough quality to do that, so I would try to get myself as close to the action as I could. That one with Andy with his knee down was literally just missing my shoulder when he passed me. On one take I thought he was going to clip me! Another point I should add is I took about 40 - 50 photos that day and I only walked away with a couple of good ones and I would say that the ones I was happy with are fairly dark and dull in the colour area as well. But I am still pleased with them.

Take loads and loads of pics, keep changing the settings, I wish I had moved my shutter speed much faster at Silverstone, I am sure I could have got them really sharp. Only thing is, when you are taking an action shot, it is nice to not go too fast on shutter speed so there is a bit of background blurring as you track the moving object, it gives a sensation of massive speed.

The first is with my D70 and the second is the S50, the first one looks really really fast, well it is, but that is portrayed in the picture.

https://www.mad-als.com/photos/slv/slv1.jpg

This one Steve is going about 80 mph, yet he looks like he is hardly moving as the background is too fixed because I had the shutter speed way too fast:

https://www.mad-als.com/steve/pages/stv5.htm

To be honest buddy, I am a complete novice, I have done a bit of digging on the web and gone out and played with the camera. I have stood on motorway bridges taking photos of cars as they go under seeing what effects I can do and learning at the same time.

If there is anything I have said wrong above, anyone, please feel free to correct me or add any comments, more knowledge the better! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very helpful actually Mr Pants! Thumbs Up

I now know what sort of settings I need to get decent pictures, just need to find out how to change them Laughing

Manual time Rolling Eyes Very Happy

I like your second example picture, that's the kind of pictures I like, it looks very "cool" - I especially like the pictures that track day photographers take, as they seem to make even crap people look really good... I think it's because of the fast shutter speed and bright picture quality like yours Thumbs Up

I'll have another play I guess, if I don't get anything good then I might look to a Digital SLR if they do a cheaper one Laughing

Thanks mate
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canon EOS300D would have been my second choice, I believe they are slowly approaching the £600 mark if you do a bit of digging online. Make sure you get on with a lens though, you can buy the body only.

Good luck buddy, thanks for the compliments on my very average photos Laughing Thumbs Up My head is all big now. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 10 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

£600 Shocked

I might keep my eyes open for a second hand digital SLR of some kind Laughing but not for a longgg while yet, got other things I need..

Will definetly RTFM and see if I can get some better quality pictures from my Sony though!

Thanks again for the advice, I've replied to your PM and will get back to you when I hear from the organiser of the track day, it'll hopefully be a Thumbs Up and if it is, then you get to do go-karting and wheely practice etc too Very Happy
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